Mike Parrish Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, LJB said: i was told once what USAW working budget was (albeit from about 10 years ago)... if what i was told was correct, the number is shockingly low... i also know what a greco national team member was being given as a stipend last year... again, shockingly low... You'll be even more pissed if you look at total executive compensation at USAW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: You'll be even more pissed if you look at total executive compensation at USAW. which is precisely why i have not looked a second time... that path leads towards damnation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherkov Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, mspart said: Why doesn't everyone show up to these tourneys? That's my point. Steel sharpens steel. That sort of thing. I get the injury angle, I would just like to see more wrestling in the international circuit. Lack of prize money- by far the number one reason. They are not essential for the established wrestlers to get ready for big events. Especially if you have high level domestic training partners. It also doesn't help that most of these tournaments disappear after a cycle, so they're never around long enough to develop an identity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Cherkov said: It also doesn't help that most of these tournaments disappear after a cycle, so they're never around long enough to develop an identity. Most? Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherkov Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Most? Is that true? Not a cycle, I exaggerated for convenience. But yes most of the current tournaments are much younger than the posters here and most of ones from the 70s, 80s are no longer around. Tbilisi used to be a big tournament, gone. Some may carry a name, but new location, management, and dubious connections to the previous event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, Cherkov said: Not a cycle, I exaggerated for convenience. But yes most of the current tournaments are much younger than the posters here and most of ones from the 70s, 80s are no longer around. Tbilisi used to be a big tournament, gone. Some may carry a name, but new location, management, and dubious connections to the previous event. That's what I thought. What major tournaments are no longer around that were prominent twenty/thirty years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherkov Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, MPhillips said: That's what I thought. What major tournaments are no longer around that were prominent twenty/thirty years ago? Tbilisi and Poddubny were major tournaments that are no longer relevant that I'm aware of. It's hard to say because so many tournaments during that previous time period were poorly archived. A lot of them would have also been one offs for tours and those sorts of events. Many Soviet related tournaments are obviously also gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 whatever a tourney is named means little... the gold old days were not really that good... that is across the board... nostalgia has it's place, but, nostalgia does not a medal make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Streaming - https://uww.org/event/grand-prix-de-france-henri-deglane-2?section=schedule 4:30am EST with wrestling taking place in one day (Finals later the same day). Women's Freestyle on Friday the 20th Men's Freestyle on Saturday the 21st Greco Roman on Sunday the 22nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 1:28 PM, LJB said: i was told once what USAW working budget was (albeit from about 10 years ago)... if what i was told was correct, the number is shockingly low... i also know what a greco national team member was being given as a stipend last year... again, shockingly low... Quite a while back, some of my buddies lived with a greco national team member. Very low stipend, and I would be surprised if it has gone up much since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Deglane and the Spanish Grand Prix have been around a while. Also as far as defunct tournaments, the Sunkist Open no longer happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 UWW's streams are broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 UWW website does not look like they even wrestled today... no results... no brackets... there is a tourney going on, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 NM... old guy alert... i struggle with new appliances nowadays as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, LJB said: UWW website does not look like they even wrestled today... no results... no brackets... there is a tourney going on, yes? https://fflutte.sportall.tv/sportitem/63be95efd0cdfd7958eba54a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Mike Parrish said: https://fflutte.sportall.tv/sportitem/63be95efd0cdfd7958eba54a yeah... i somehow stumbled into there a bit ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, LJB said: yeah... i somehow stumbled into there a bit ago... Still can't find brackets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike Parrish said: Still can't find brackets... https://fflutte.smoothcomp.com/fr/event/10204/schedule/mat/59949 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, LJB said: https://fflutte.smoothcomp.com/fr/event/10204/schedule/mat/59949 Thank you. Passed on wrestling parents who were lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 https://fflutte.smoothcomp.com/en/event/10204/participants this is a much better link to participants and brackets... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 ukraine greco finding something worthwhile to do with the recent influx of embarrassing amounts of cash... they are all over those brackets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Smoothcomp is such an awful UX. It looks like it was built in Figma by an engineer who has never seen a bracket. The only strong experience is mat scheduling so you can forecast as a coach/athlete/viewer. Everything else makes my head hurt. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Yeah, that is a pretty sad site. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 to be fair... after my first old guy freak out because the color of the header is different... it really does not seem to be that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Anyone know what happened to Kennedy Blades? She pinned one opponent, then was pinned herself and forfeited the third match. Hope she isn't injured. That girl has some talent, though she is up a weight class or two now. Kennedy Blades, 76kg - Did not place Round Robin 1: Pinned Taylor Follensbee, CAN Round Robin 2: Pinned by Elmira Syzdykova, KAZ Round Robin 3: Forfeited to Laura Kuehn, GER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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