Wrestleknownothing Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I know, I know. Getting an early start here. When it was announced the TheMat forum was shutting down there was already a topic for predictions of this dual. Six fearless posters made weight by weight predictions and I decided to hang on to them in the hopes that a new forum would form. Well, here we are. Below are the predictions made by The Six. At least five of you have migrated to the new board: @flyingcement, @Barracuda141, @nhs67, @VakAttack, @Le duke. (Only MSU158 is missing in action, though he appears to be active on HR. Perhaps Vak can reach out to him and encourage his return). I wanted to do the same thing as last year and keep track of predictions for this dual. But a lot of water has gone under the bridge since late September / early October. So I also wanted to give The Super Six a chance to revise their predictions, or double down. This is what 2022 you thought. What says 2023 you? The Super Six Seers: Two for Iowa, two for PSU and two ties. I love symmetry. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) My take: 125 Lee by FALL Iowa 6-0 133 RBY by MAJ Iowa 6-3 141: Woods by DEC Iowa 9-3 149: Murin by DEC Iowa 12-3 157: Haines by DEC Iowa 12-6 165: Kennedy by DEC 15-6 174: Starroci by MAJ 15-10 184: Brooks by MAJ 15-14 197: Warner by DEC 18-14 HWT: Kerk by DEC 18-17 Iowa wins 18-17 (This result is subject to Woods being healthy enough to wrestle, of course.) Edited January 13, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Are we allowed to tweak @Wrestleknownothing? I think we see a different roster for both sides. I think Barlett ends up beating Schriever, Haines Majors Seibriecht, Lee pins Steen. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Are we allowed to tweak @Wrestleknownothing? I think we see a different roster for both sides. I think Barlett ends up beating Schriever, Haines Majors Seibriecht, Lee pins Steen. absolutely. I only posted these as a reminder of what you said previously. All predictions are subject until you tell me they are final. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Lee pin RBY major Woods better be ready to go by then... Woods decision Murin decision Haines major Kennedy decision Carter decision Brooks major Dean decision Kerk decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Now that I’ve seen more, and with more reflection on where it is on the calendar:Lee FALL SteenRBY MAJ whoeverWoods DEC BartlettSVN DEC MurinHaines DEC whoever Kennedy DEC Facundo, but just barelyStarocci DEC BrandsBrooks DEC AssadDean DEC WarnerKerk DEC Cassioppi Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 One more thought. Feel free to change your minds as many times as you like in the next two weeks. Go ahead and share your predictions now, but don't feel locked in since there will be many more data points to consider between now and then. With an exception for The Original Six (screw the NHL). You get two bites of the apple. Your TheMat prediction and whatever your final thoughts are here. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I’m more interested in how PSU looks against UM and MSU.This two week gap is likely where PSU has their hardest training period of the year. I expect an uncharacteristically poor performance or three next weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Not sure where to share this, so I will just put it here. Enjoy the fun graphics after you click on the arrow: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: My take: 125 Lee by FALL Iowa 6-0 133 RBY by MAJ Iowa 6-3 141: Woods by DEC Iowa 9-3 149: Murin by DEC Iowa 12-3 157: Haines by DEC Iowa 12-6 165: Kennedy by DEC 15-6 174: Starroci by MAJ 15-10 184: Brooks by MAJ 15-14 197: Warner by DEC 18-14 HWT: Kerk by DEC 18-17 Iowa wins 18-17 (This result is subject to Woods being healthy enough to wrestle, of course.) It's also subject to arithmetic. If 133 goes "RBY by MAJ," as predicted, then the score will be 18-18, not 18-17. Although I guess Iowa still wins on criteria because of Lee's fall? (Although out of fairness, shouldn't his opponent get some sort of bonus point if he can last till the second period before getting stuck? Good grief Lee is not messing around. Him "healthy" is just something to behold.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, dragit said: It's also subject to arithmetic. If 133 goes "RBY by MAJ," as predicted, then the score will be 18-18, not 18-17. Although I guess Iowa still wins on criteria because of Lee's fall? (Although out of fairness, shouldn't his opponent get some sort of bonus point if he can last till the second period before getting stuck? Good grief Lee is not messing around. Him "healthy" is just something to behold.) He's predicting a team point penalty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, dragit said: It's also subject to arithmetic. If 133 goes "RBY by MAJ," as predicted, then the score will be 18-18, not 18-17. Although I guess Iowa still wins on criteria because of Lee's fall? (Although out of fairness, shouldn't his opponent get some sort of bonus point if he can last till the second period before getting stuck? Good grief Lee is not messing around. Him "healthy" is just something to behold.) If Lee does get a fall, you bet on RBY, Starocci or Brooks matching it. My guess Brooks. PSU will then take it on total match points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I predict by the end of the 197 match, the bow and arrow thread will be 12 pages long 1 4 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Iowa wins 125 and favored in closer matches at 141 and 165, could win 149 and possibly 285 but Kerk has size and athletic advantage on Cass now. The only other weight with a slight chance is 157. I could lump 197 into the same chance as 157 but Warner not wrestling well, has an injury issue. So PSU gimmie winners at 133, 174 and 184 with bonus at at least two of the 3 weights and possibly all 3. Solid favorites at 197. Slight favorites at 285 and 157. Toss up at 149. 20-12 or 17-15 PSU depending on 149. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, bnwtwg said: I predict by the end of the 197 match, the bow and arrow thread will be 12 pages long Fingers crossed Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Lee by pinfall RBY by major Woods by decision Van Ness by decision Haines by decision (or Seibrecht by decision if Barraclough wrestles) Facundo by decision Starocci by major Brooks by major Dean by decision Kerkvliet by decision 27-9 PSU (or 24 - 12 if Barraclough wrestles) Edited January 23, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 I have predictions from @flyingcement, MSU158 (no longer here?), @Barracuda141, @nhs67, @VakAttack, @Le duke from prior to the start of the season, and @Jimmy Cinnabon, @nhs67, @Mr. PeanutButter, @Le duke, @Wrestleknownothing, @Jimmy Cinnabon (again), @VakAttack, and @Perry from the last few days. Anyone else want to get in on the action? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Anyone else want to get in on the action? I'm in just want to wait and see if Haines wrestles I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Non-bias take although Hawkeye fans will think i'm delusional: 125 Lee Pin 6-0 Iowa 133 RBY MAJ 6-4 Iowa 141 Woods dec 9-4 Iowa 149 Van Ness dec 9-7 Iowa 157 Haines dec 10-9 PSU 165 Facundo dec 13-9 PSU 174 Starocci dec 16-9 PSU 184 Brooks maj 20-9 PSU 197 Dean dec 23-9 PSU HVY Kerk dec 26-9 PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I'm in just want to wait and see if Haines wrestles I will accept contingent entries Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 125 - Lee Pin Steen 6-0 Iowa 133 - RBY Dec Teske 6-3 Iowa 141 - Woods Dec Bartlett 9-3 Iowa 149 - Murin Dec Van Ness 12-3 Iowa 157 - Seibrecht Dec Bear claw 15-3 Iowa 165 - Kennedy dec Facundo 18-3 Iowa 174 - Starocci dec Brands 18-6 Iowa 184 - Brooks maj Dec Assad 18-10 Iowa 197- Dean tech fall Franklin 18-15 Iowa Hwt - Kerk dec Cassiopi 18-18 Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If the pastry wrestles at 157, I've got Siebrecht winning. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Is it clear that Warner is out? The thing about this dual is that PSU a chance to win 9 out of 10 and strong favorites in at least 3. While Iowa (without Warner) is heavy favorite in only one and has a strong chance to win 5 or 6. Iowa will have some sadness if only Lee gets the win - is Hawkeye wrestlenation worried? Should they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, VakAttack said: If the pastry wrestles at 157, I've got Siebrecht winning. Took me a moment to make the connection- bear claw and pastry. Assumed you were talking about Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 125 Lee pin Steen 6-0 Iowa 133 RBY dec Teske 6-3 Iowa (will be pursuing major) 141 Woods dec Bartlett 9-3 Iowa (razor thin match) 149 Murin dec Van Ness 12-3 Iowa (another razor thin margin) 157 Haines dec Siebrecht (not a close decision) 12-6 Iowa 165 Kennedy dec Facundo 15-6 Iowa 174 Starocci dec Brands 15-9 Iowa 184 Brooks dec Asaad 15-12 Iowa (will be close to major) 197 Dean dec Warner 15-15 tie 285 Cassioppi dec Kerkvliet 18-15 Iowa If PSU can get some bonus points out of studs who don't usually score a lot, it is a problem for Iowa. Iowa also can't afford to lose 141, 149, 165, or 285 and frankly I would be surprised to see them win all four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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