Mojo44 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Is the Wisconsin staff regressing his skills or was he over hyped out of high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 He was injured by Mean Dean's bow and arrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 gonna toot my own horn here and say i was all over this a few years ago. he's a tweener and built a lot of hype in high school by throwing much less athletic 220's around at fargo. the few times he made the cut to 195, he looked like a mid level recruit. he's not overly skilled and he loses his athleticism advantage down at 197. i think he'd be better served trying to wrestle up at heavyweight going forward, but i highly doubt he'll ever be elite. the debate about him v. ferrari was always a joke. ferrari was a far superior prospect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, uncle bernard said: gonna toot my own horn here and say i was all over this a few years ago. Look for a bunch of horn tooters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Olympic alternate and world teamer to our only medaling weight. bUt WE dOn’T nEeD aNoThEr BiG gUy WeIgHt cLaSs foh 3 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Is the Wisconsin staff regressing his skills or was he over hyped out of high school? Seems like he's focusing on Greco now. How many guys that focus on Greco have regressed or failed to live up to the hype in College? It's a LONG list. Who's the last Greco guy to win a NC? Schultz could do it at HWT I guess. I don't think he will, but he's been in the finals. But who's the last guy who focused on Greco to win it in March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Amos isn’t focusing on Greco… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 49 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: the few times he made the cut to 195, he looked like a mid level recruit Are you referring to the same Amos that demolished Kerkvliet down below 220 a ~year before Goat Steveson scraped by via a 3-2 Decision while he (Kerk) was in his first year at 220 and bumped to face said Goat Steveson? He looked like a Tier 1 recruit regardless of weight since he was a 182lber. It doesn't change the fact that you are correct: He needs to go 285 next season. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, LJB said: Amos isn’t focusing on Greco… Doesn’t that say enough? 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Are you referring to the same Amos that demolished Kerkvliet down below 220 a ~year before Goat Steveson scraped by via a 3-2 Decision while he (Kerk) was in his first year at 220 and bumped to face said Goat Steveson? He looked like a Tier 1 recruit regardless of weight since he was a 182lber. It doesn't change the fact that you are correct: He needs to go 285 next season. that was not even close to same kerkvliet. it's a disingenuous comparison. the gable match happened 2 years and 30 lbs later. the better comparison is when Amos, after wrestling 220 and building his rep for 2 years, cut down to 92 kg for cadet trials. He took 4th in Greco and 3rd in Freestyle. 3 losses to much lower ranked wrestlers. Was supposed to see Ferrari in the finals for one of the most hyped matches of the season. Didn't even make it there. Why? Because grown up 195 is much tougher than 220. His entire style is built of athleticism and power and he's no longer the most athletic and powerful. i have a far from perfect record on recruits, but i was always low on amos on the old board. he's like a poor man's jacob warner. dominant in high school, but comes way back to earth when better athletes get access to better coaching. warner is more technical/savvy and a lot better at winning tough, low scoring matches though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He was injured by Mean Dean's bow and arrow Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He was injured by Mean Dean's bow and arrow Seems like it is mostly your feelings that were hurt. Edited January 9, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Doesn’t that say enough? I’m somewhat apprehensive to ask exactly what point you are trying to make… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherkov Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 hours ago, scourge165 said: Seems like he's focusing on Greco now. How many guys that focus on Greco have regressed or failed to live up to the hype in College? It's a LONG list. Who's the last Greco guy to win a NC? Schultz could do it at HWT I guess. I don't think he will, but he's been in the finals. But who's the last guy who focused on Greco to win it in March? How could he be focusing on Greco if he's wrestling in college? It would take a separate practice designed just for him and good training partners. He's senior level age, it doesn't cut it to have your best bro on the team go an extra 45 minutes upper body with you after practice. That's not focusing on Greco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cherkov said: How could he be focusing on Greco if he's wrestling in college? It would take a separate practice designed just for him and good training partners. He's senior level age, it doesn't cut it to have your best bro on the team go an extra 45 minutes upper body with you after practice. That's not focusing on Greco. Yeah...of course he's still Wrestling Folkstyle during practice. I'm talking about on the Sr circuit. I'm talking about outside of the College Season. On the Sr level...when most College Wrestlers are improving, taking the next step...he hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherkov Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 20 hours ago, scourge165 said: Yeah...of course he's still Wrestling Folkstyle during practice. I'm talking about on the Sr circuit. I'm talking about outside of the College Season. On the Sr level...when most College Wrestlers are improving, taking the next step...he hasn't. I can't think of a skill based discipline where a hard split makes you better than if you had continuously trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Does anyone think Amos will AA before he is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Harris said: Does anyone think Amos will AA before he is done? He has at least 3 NCAAs remaining. He will AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBluegill133 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 5:56 PM, LJB said: Amos isn’t focusing on Greco… Either is USAWrestling 1 1 "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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