BerniePragle Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 6:58 PM, MPhillips said: He really should get something for the effort. His work is shared far and wide. Expand If I ever get lucky enough to meet him, I'm gonna buy him a Sarsaparilla. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 8:42 PM, BerniePragle said: If I ever get lucky enough to meet him, I'm gonna buy him a Sarsaparilla. Expand A true gentlemen Mr. P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 8:42 PM, BerniePragle said: If I ever get lucky enough to meet him, I'm gonna buy him a Sarsaparilla. Expand After all the work you did for me, it is I who owes you the drink. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 1:09 AM, fishbane said: Not sure on that, but Sanderson is 6th all time in individual AAs. 1) Harold Nichols 156 2) Dan Gable 152 3) John Smith 150 4) Jay Robinson 124 5) Bobby Douglas 110 6) Cael Sanderson 90 The totals for Sanderson and Smith probably include 2020 no tournament AAs. Expand What a great list of coaches!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 1:40 PM, jchapman said: Weren't there more teams, and therefore more total participants for each AA spot, when Gable coached? We could argue that Top 8 out of 80ish teams is easier than Top 8 out of 120ish teams. I don't know the exact numbers, just plugging some in to illustrate the point. Expand When Dr. Harold Nichols coached there was no limit on number of scholarships if I remember correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 1:40 PM, jchapman said: Weren't there more teams, and therefore more total participants for each AA spot, when Gable coached? We could argue that Top 8 out of 80ish teams is easier than Top 8 out of 120ish teams. I don't know the exact numbers, just plugging some in to illustrate the point. Expand On 1/15/2023 at 12:09 AM, Fadzaev2 said: When Dr. Harold Nichols coached there was no limit on number of scholarships if I remember correctly. Expand I good friend of mine was in the room there back then and said there might be as many 30 state champions in that room....it was a meat grinder for back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 6:58 PM, MPhillips said: He really should get something for the effort. His work is shared far and wide. Expand Perhaps there is a local wrestling club he would like to see recognized. Just hopefully nothing to do with that damned gold dot? Maybe a local cowboy boots store or something 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 6:03 PM, bnwtwg said: Perhaps there is a local wrestling club he would like to see recognized. Just hopefully nothing to do with that damned gold dot? Maybe a local cowboy boots store or something Expand I lived a few hundred yards from that damned gold dot for about 30 years. And I was always curious about the cowboy boots and handlebar mustache in surburban Chicago. Never made sense to me. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) On 1/15/2023 at 6:12 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I lived a few hundred yards from that damned gold dot for about 30 years. And I was always curious about the cowboy boots and handlebar mustache in surburban Chicago. Never made sense to me. Expand Suburban cowboys. Edited January 15, 2023 by BerniePragle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 6:12 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I lived a few hundred yards from that damned gold dot for about 30 years. And I was always curious about the cowboy boots and handlebar mustache in surburban Chicago. Never made sense to me. Expand Never made sense but it left an impression and the results spoke for themselves. I mean, uh, my friend said that. Begrudgingly haha 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 6:14 PM, BerniePragle said: Suburban cowboys. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 6:12 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I lived a few hundred yards from that damned gold dot for about 30 years. And I was always curious about the cowboy boots and handlebar mustache in surburban Chicago. Never made sense to me. Expand Have my curiosity going. What are you talking about. I will say though that there's heck of a lot of good cowpoke music that has come out of Chicago for almost 30 years, thanks to Bloodshot Records. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 6:49 PM, Ban Basketball said: Have my curiosity going. What are you talking about. I will say though that there's heck of a lot of good cowpoke music that has come out of Chicago for almost 30 years, thanks to Bloodshot Records. Expand Glenbard North HS in Carol Stream, IL. Home of Tony Ramos, Austin Gomez, Abe Assad, and Billy Corrigan. Coach Hahn always wore cowboy boots, dominated the conference, and was not every competotor's favorite. He also owns a barn across the street with a gold dot on the roof. Only GN wrestlers are allowed to know its meaning. https://illinoismatmen.com/forum/forum/statewide/ihsa-3a/43276-gbn-hatred/page4 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-08-09-9203110535-story.html 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:12 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: https://illinoismatmen.com/forum/forum/statewide/ihsa-3a/43276-gbn-hatred/page4 Expand Thirteen pages not one Burwick mention... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) On 1/15/2023 at 8:32 PM, MPhillips said: Thirteen pages not one Burwick mention... Expand you misspelled it, search for "burwikk." Edited January 15, 2023 by ionel 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:12 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Glenbard North HS in Carol Stream, IL. Home of Tony Ramos, Austin Gomez, Abe Assad, and Billy Corrigan. Coach Hahn always wore cowboy boots, dominated the conference, and was not every competotor's favorite. He also owns a barn across the street with a gold dot on the roof. Only GN wrestlers are allowed to know its meaning. https://illinoismatmen.com/forum/forum/statewide/ihsa-3a/43276-gbn-hatred/page4 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-08-09-9203110535-story.html Expand Ah, gotcha. In the boots department, I'll bet he has nothing on Mike Zadick. I always expected his boots to puncture holes in the mats when he walks on them. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:42 PM, ionel said: you misspelled it, search for "burwikk." Expand I'm talking about the new and improved and eligible Burwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:44 PM, MPhillips said: I'm talking about the new and improved and eligible Burwick. Expand whats his record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:47 PM, ionel said: whats his record? Expand I feel like this is a trick question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:49 PM, MPhillips said: I feel like this is a trick question... Expand ... you could be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 @Wrestleknownothing we both know the alumni list is two hundred names longer. Heck of a program from Cougars through matriculation. Is VL still the feeder? It’s been about 26 years give or take, but the pipeline seems to be stronger than ever. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alces Alces Gigas Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 1:40 PM, jchapman said: Weren't there more teams, and therefore more total participants for each AA spot, when Gable coached? We could argue that Top 8 out of 80ish teams is easier than Top 8 out of 120ish teams. I don't know the exact numbers, just plugging some in to illustrate the point. Expand How many of those 120 per weight were worthy competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 8:42 PM, ionel said: you misspelled it, search for "burwikk." Expand LaMont came up missing too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 11:17 AM, Tigerfan said: 2 questions for the guru of stats. Could you do a list for active coaches only? I assume your AA numbers reflect 4 AA’s for a single, 4x AA stud. Could you show # of unique wrestlers to AA? Does a coach who gets 10 guys to AA 12x deserve more or less credit than a coach who gets 3 guys to AA 12x? Expand Curses @Tigerfan. You got in my head. I am almost finished compiling all AA's by year (1928 - 2022), weight, school, name, and seed. What I do not have is Coach by school and year. If you or anyone else is so inclined to put together a such a list, I would be much obliged. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 4:29 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Curses @Tigerfan. You got in my head. I am almost finished compiling all AA's by year (1928 - 2022), weight, school, name, and seed. What I do not have is Coach by school and year. If you or anyone else is so inclined to put together a such a list, I would be much obliged. Expand Terribly sorry WKN, but I’m too busy to help bake the bread, but I will help eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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