juniorvarsity Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 What schools have them and what can they do about it? What schools will have them in the future with recruits coming in? At Iowa, jammed up between 165 and 174 - seems like one AA threat will sit this year At OK State, Merrill or Carroll will need to occupy opposite weight classes for at least 3 season - possible future logjam At tOSU, Mendez and Bouzakis will need to go up next tear to make way for Davino to get in the lineup At Penn State, some blue chip recruits or pas AA's are going to have to sit - is there a way around this? There are many others 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 8 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: At tOSU, Mendez and Bouzakis will need to go up next tear I believe they're ready to go up now but they'll have to hold one more season unless Mendez RS's... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 6 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I believe they're ready to go up now but they'll have to hold one more season unless Mendez RS's... I think Bouzakis holds 133 and Davino redshirts in an effort to go up to 141lbs. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Tom Ryan just texted me. Here is the deal. Davino takes an RS this upcoming season. Bouzakis and Mendez hold the weight. The following season 25-26, Bouzakis and Mendez move up giving Davino the 133 spot. Side note: Marcus Blaze projected at 197 for the Buckeyes. I swear, All of this is TRUE!! 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I am not sure it is a logjam, but Cornell seems to be quite deep at the first four weights with blue chip recruits coming this year and next (grey shirts?) and the already rostered: Unger and Gregg D (cover 125 and 133?), Cornella 141, Saunders (141 or 149), and Handlovic 149. With Shapiro at 157 seems like there may be no room for Handlovic or others to move up and little room for recruits to take a spot next year. Interested to hear if there is a plan and if any of the several blue chip recruits are expected to challenge for a spot next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I’m curious to see how Minnesota handles Brenner, Sparks, Whiting, McEnelly, Salazar, Nelson and Nagel at 165-197. Nice mix of high ranked young recruits and longer tenured guys there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lleynor Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I'm intrigued of the PSU logjam. What if Cartet doesn't go 197? Does their 157 Champ, Haines, take his shirt? And if so, who goes there? What about Facundo? Lots of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Ohio Elite said: Tom Ryan just texted me. Here is the deal. Davino takes an RS this upcoming season. Bouzakis and Mendez hold the weight. The following season 25-26, Bouzakis and Mendez move up giving Davino the 133 spot. Side note: Marcus Blaze projected at 197 for the Buckeyes. I swear, All of this is TRUE!! I have bad news. I stole Tom Ryan's cell phone. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I have bad news. I stole Tom Ryan's cell phone. You bastard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 39 minutes ago, Lleynor said: I'm intrigued of the PSU logjam. What if Cartet doesn't go 197? Does their 157 Champ, Haines, take his shirt? And if so, who goes there? What about Facundo? Lots of questions. Carter is going 197lbs unless something happens to Barr that makes it so he can't wrestle. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: I think Bouzakis holds 133 Agreed. If he wants to wrestle this season he does. I'm just not confidant he holds it for two more seasons. 3 hours ago, Ohio Elite said: Davino takes an RS this upcoming season. Bouzakis and Mendez hold the weight. The following season 25-26, Bouzakis and Mendez move up giving Davino the 133 spot. This seems familiar... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Lleynor said: I'm intrigued of the PSU logjam. What if Cartet doesn't go 197? Does their 157 Champ, Haines, take his shirt? And if so, who goes there? What about Facundo? Lots of questions. some recent discussions that Kasak might have grown and compete for spot at 157. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Will be interesting to see what the ILLINI end up doing from 165 to 197. There are multiple logjams and, I think, only one redshirt left. You'd think last year's All American and the two Covid AAs will be safe, but who knows. 165. Chris Moore (NCAA qualifier as true Freshman, still has redshirt). Braeden Scoles (True Freshman last year, 4x Wisconsin State Champ, listed at 157 by Wrestlestat.com), Caden Ernd (Spot starter last season). 174. Danny Braunagel (Olympic redshirt last season; Covid AA, moving up in weight--and it loooked like he needed to), Colin Kelly (Blue chip true Freshman this season). No controversy at this weight. Little Brawny starts and Kelly redshirts. 184. Edmond Ruth (AA last season, R12 the year before; moving up in weight), Dylan Connell (NCAA qualifier 2 years ago, suffered multiple injuries last season). This will be the key lineup battle. 197. Zac Braunagel (Olympic redshirt last season; Covid AA, expect him to stay at 197 where he finished R12 two years ago), Isiah Pettigrew (Started last season and looked good until injury slowed him down). Expect a wrestle-off here, but the Brawlnagel has to be the big favorite. Also, Sungyup Ryu showed a lot of promise at Midlands, but he went back to Korea to wrestle with their National Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Michigan 133/141 IF Cannon does not transfer out, which is a large if, one of him, Ragusin, or Lemley will need to sit (or Redshirt). 149/157/165 Gilcher, Mantanona(x2), Mattin, Cooper, and Gates are all top tier potential talents and two of them will ride pine unless one shrinks down (while growing) or grows in to 174lbs. I wouldn't be surprised to see it be 149 - Gates, 157 - Gilcher, 165/174 - Mantanona (x2) in two years, but they need to get there first. That seemingly leaves Cooper the odd man out? Not sure. Gates might be. Also, Lemley might grow more (or perhaps he heads back down to 133...? Not sure). 197/285 You have Walters and Jenkins right now for 285, even if Walters is a 197lber - Cardenas is there. Next year there will be Walters, Jenkins, Veazy, Sahakian, and Correa in the 197/285 range. I had said before, and I will reiterate: Veazy needs to plan on descending towards 184lbs now if he wants a spot. One of Walters, Sahakian, and Correa will not be starting. These are all not taking the portal in to account. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smsu150 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: What schools have them and what can they do about it? What schools will have them in the future with recruits coming in? At Iowa, jammed up between 165 and 174 - seems like one AA threat will sit this year At OK State, Merrill or Carroll will need to occupy opposite weight classes for at least 3 season - possible future logjam At tOSU, Mendez and Bouzakis will need to go up next tear to make way for Davino to get in the lineup At Penn State, some blue chip recruits or pas AA's are going to have to sit - is there a way around this? There are many others NAIA rules would be away around. Not sure the NCAA would go for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Michigan 133/141 IF Cannon does not transfer out, which is a large if, one of him, Ragusin, or Lemley will need to sit (or Redshirt). 149/157/165 Gilcher, Mantanona(x2), Mattin, Cooper, and Gates are all top tier potential talents and two of them will ride pine unless one shrinks down (while growing) or grows in to 174lbs. I wouldn't be surprised to see it be 149 - Gates, 157 - Gilcher, 165/174 - Mantanona (x2) in two years, but they need to get there first. That seemingly leaves Cooper the odd man out? Not sure. Gates might be. Also, Lemley might grow more (or perhaps he heads back down to 133...? Not sure). 197/285 You have Walters and Jenkins right now for 285, even if Walters is a 197lber - Cardenas is there. Next year there will be Walters, Jenkins, Veazy, Sahakian, and Correa in the 197/285 range. I had said before, and I will reiterate: Veazy needs to plan on descending towards 184lbs now if he wants a spot. One of Walters, Sahakian, and Correa will not be starting. These are all not taking the portal in to account. I think Brock man is their best option right away he looked incredible at trials however, Red shirting him and letting him grow may be ideal. Im not sure holding 149 for an entire season would be easy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 hours ago, MPhillips said: I believe they're ready to go up now but they'll have to hold one more season unless Mendez RS's... He wont but Id like Jesse to have two more years with potentially both Blaze and davino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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