CowboyYe2024 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Ideas Since the ACC only has 7 teams they should add (with Stanford) App State, Little Rock and Chattanooga BIg 12 (with ASU) Oregon State and Cal Poly to make it even Big Ten DO NOTHING Pac 12 Shrivel up in pieces and die SoCon and MAC add D2 schools 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 32 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Ideas Since the ACC only has 7 teams they should add (with Stanford) App State, Little Rock and Chattanooga BIg 12 (with ASU) Oregon State and Cal Poly to make it even Big Ten DO NOTHING Pac 12 Shrivel up in pieces and die SoCon and MAC add D2 schools You can't 'just' add D2 schools. That isn't how it works. You also are pulling folks from the SOCON and throwing them in to the ACC as if the ACC would even consider or want them (they don't). 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Just now, nhs67 said: You can't 'just' add D2 schools. That isn't how it works. You also are pulling folks from the SOCON and throwing them in to the ACC as if the ACC would even consider or want them (they don't). Every conference should have a team from each time zone and region. Add Club teams Just a few of my ideas coming out in my next book. 2 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 30 minutes ago, Idaho said: Just a few of my ideas coming out in my next book Is it gonna be a coloring book by chance? Those are my fav... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 24 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Is it gonna be a coloring book by chance? Those are my fav... We've read your post'... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 26 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Is it gonna be a coloring book by chance? Those are my fav... To the creative type all books are coloring books. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMW Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 30 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: Is it gonna be a coloring book by chance? Those are my fav... if it's a book about wrestling coloring is fine - but please make sure it's not scratch and sniff! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Idaho said: Every conference should have a team from each time zone and region and eat potatoes twice a week. Add Club teams Just a few of my ideas coming out in my next book. ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) All D1 starters should receive an invitation to the NCAA tournament. Nearly half the guys in D1 will qualify for NCAAs anyway (it's not exactly "elite" if the 9th place finisher at a conference tournament qualifies for nationals!). Tournament and dual results can be used for seeding purposes. Edited May 23 by NM1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 33 minutes ago, OMW said: if it's a book about wrestling coloring is fine - but please make sure it's not scratch and sniff! LOL. Do you think wrestlers would be capable of coloring within the lines?? Below: colored by Tom Brands in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalWrestler Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, NM1965 said: All D1 starters should receive an invitation to the NCAA tournament. Nearly half the guys in D1 will qualify for NCAAs anyway (it's not exactly "elite" if the 9th place finisher at a conference tournament qualifies for nationals!). Tournament and dual results can be used for seeding purposes. Completely disagree with this. Not much point to regular season if everybody is invited. You would just devalue the accomplishment of being a national qualifier for those that have done so in the past and those that would have done so without everybody getting a pass. I haven't even addressed all of the logistical issues created with so many entrants plus many more unwatchable matches. Just hand out participation ribbons to everybody. Kumbiya! Edited May 23 by CalWrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CalWrestler said: Completely disagree with this. Not much point to regular season if everybody is invited. You would just devalue the accomplishment of being a national qualifier for those that have done so in the past and those that would have done so without everybody getting a pass. I haven't even mentioned the logistical issues created with so many entrants plus many more unwatchable matches. Just hand out participation ribbons to everybody. Kumbiya! Are you kidding? They are practically giving out participation ribbons already what with 9th place losers qualifying for NCAAs. Plus nearly half the guys in D1 make the tournament anyway, so there's no point in pretending you need elite qualifications to make NCAAs. Heck, even in HS state tournaments no more than 1/4 of the guys qualify for state. Just make the tournament an invitational and invite all starters. It wouldn't even add much length to the tournament. Going between a 32 man and a 64 man bracket is only one more match. That would also remove bias from selection. Edited May 23 by NM1965 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdalu75 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Idaho said: Every conference should have a team from each time zone and region. So each conference has 24 teams, minimum? I wonder what the NIL money is like in Kurdistan. Edited May 23 by jdalu75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, jdalu75 said: So each conference has 24 teams, minimum? I wonder what the NIL money is like in Kurdistan. Big 12 is almost there. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Whatever this realignment looks like, JMU, W&M, ODU need invites. Well I mean getting those programs back and then…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 7 hours ago, NM1965 said: All D1 starters should receive an invitation to the NCAA tournament. Nearly half the guys in D1 will qualify for NCAAs anyway (it's not exactly "elite" if the 9th place finisher at a conference tournament qualifies for nationals!). Tournament and dual results can be used for seeding purposes. A match is a match. Dual or regular season Tournament. Strength of schedule is a thing. Edited May 24 by JimmyBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 hours ago, NM1965 said: Are you kidding? They are practically giving out participation ribbons already what with 9th place losers qualifying for NCAAs. Plus nearly half the guys in D1 make the tournament anyway, so there's no point in pretending you need elite qualifications to make NCAAs. Heck, even in HS state tournaments no more than 1/4 of the guys qualify for state. Just make the tournament an invitational and invite all starters. It wouldn't even add much length to the tournament. Going between a 32 man and a 64 man bracket is only one more match. That would also remove bias from selection. A 9th place finisher in the Big10 is equal to a __________ in the Mac or SoCon. Cant wait to hear your answer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 16 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: A 9th place finisher in the Big10 is equal to a __________ in the Mac or SoCon. Cant wait to hear your answer Ist place,maybe a 2nd place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 10 hours ago, JimmyBT said: A match is a match. Dual or regular season Tournament. Strength of schedule is a thing. Yeah, SOS is a thing. That would be considered in seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 10 hours ago, JimmyBT said: A 9th place finisher in the Big10 is equal to a __________ in the Mac or SoCon. Cant wait to hear your answer That's hardly the point. I know how the small conferences stack up against the B10. But if you guys are gonna say that inviting all the starters is a "participation trophy" situation then I don't know how you can say that a kid who finished behind EIGHT other kids at his conference tourney has earned an invite. Seriously, 9th place is shit and a guy getting invited to NCAAs on a 9th place finish IS a "participation trophy". The beauty is that under my idea of inviting all starters it removes any bias built in. The 9th place kid will get his shot at NCAAs just like every other starting wrestler and he won't have to rely on a very imperfect and biased system to get him an invite. Just invite all the starters from all the D1 schools and we'll have a nice little season ending rumble. I don't see the problem going from 33 to 64 (or 66 man, technically) brackets. Regarding reg season and conference tourneys, the results from those will be what's used to seed the wrestlers. Easy, peasy, japanesey. Plus, I think it would make NCAAs even more compelling. Edited May 24 by NM1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 10 minutes ago, NM1965 said: If you guys are gonna say that inviting all the starters is a "participation trophy" situation then I don't know how you can say that a kid who finished behind EIGHT other kids at his conference tourney has earned an invite. Seriously, 9th place is shit and a guy getting invited to NCAAs on a 9th place finish IS a "participation trophy". The beauty is that under my idea of inviting all starters it removes any bias built in. The 9th place kid will get his shot at NCAAs just like every other starting wrestler and he won't have to rely on a very imperfect and biased system to get him an invite. Just invite all the starters from all the D1 schools and we'll have a nice little season ending rumble. I don't see the problem going from 33 to 64 (or 66 man, technically) brackets. Regarding reg season and conference tourneys, the results from those will be what's used to seed the wrestlers. Easy, peasy, japanesey. Plus, I think it would make NCAAs even more compelling. A. I didn’t say anything about participation ribbons B. There is nothing wrong with how they do it now. SOS is taken into account for deciding the actual wrestlers that make the tournament AND for seeding purposes. If the 9th best wrestler in a certain conference is better than the third best wrestler in a different conference they deserve one of the allotted spots. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: A. I didn’t say anything about participation ribbons B. There is nothing wrong with how they do it now. SOS is taken into account for deciding the actual wrestlers that make the tournament AND for seeding purposes. If the 9th best wrestler in a certain conference is better than the third best wrestler in a different conference they deserve one of the allotted spots. Pretty simple. A. You didn't but another guy did. B. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, NM1965 said: A. You didn't but another guy did. B. I disagree. A. You said “you guyS B. Happy for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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