H82Lose Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/22/2024 at 5:43 PM, CowboyYe2024 said: Updated 125 Spratley 133 Hughes 141 Jamison 149 JW 157 Caleb Fish 165 CAM AMINE 174 Mean Dean 184 D Plott 197 Christmas Carroll 285 Pindrickson Hughes will AA at 133 this year, mark that one down. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Well shit. Those doubting (me and others)... Carroll is entered at 92 KG (~202.8lbs) for U23s...How is a kid who has never wrestled in college not eligible for U20s?Levi Haines is a 2x NCAA finalist and is still eligible to be at U20s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 44 minutes ago, H82Lose said: Hughes will AA at 133 this year, mark that one down. thats what I am thinking but I have only seen him wrestle one college guy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 44 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: thats what I am thinking but I have only seen him wrestle one college guy though 99% sure he beat Nasir Bailey at 2023 U20 Trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Le duke said: How is a kid who has never wrestled in college not eligible for U20s? Levi Haines is a 2x NCAA finalist and is still eligible to be at U20s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk U20 has qualification criteria. The entry list for all of U20s is 155 and U23s is 690. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 4 hours ago, nhs67 said: Well shit. Those doubting (me and others)... Carroll is entered at 92 KG (~202.8lbs) for U23s... Still different to weight in all season at 197 versus getting down for a tournament to 202.8. Almost 6 pounds more for the entire season. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Idaho said: Still different to weight in all season at 197 versus getting down for a tournament to 202.8. Almost 6 pounds more for the entire season. but vs 97kg? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Idaho said: Still different to weight in all season at 197 versus getting down for a tournament to 202.8. Almost 6 pounds more for the entire season. Clearly he is already starting the descent and transforming his body. This just shows his dedication to making 197. Looks like he’s taking it seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 10 hours ago, Gus said: Clearly he is already starting the descent and transforming his body. This just shows his dedication to making 197. Looks like he’s taking it seriously. Sure.... Still doesn't change that cutting another 6 pounds for an entire season is different. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 16 minutes ago, Idaho said: Sure.... Still doesn't change that cutting another 6 pounds for an entire season is different. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s on a pitch count, they may send him to some 2 day weigh tournaments to see if his body can hold up, they still have Surber to fall back on if he can’t hold the weight …if he’s having trouble making 197 consistently don’t be surprised to see him just disappear mid season to an unknown “injury” bc they hand out Medical years like candy nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 16 hours ago, H82Lose said: Hughes will AA at 133 this year, mark that one down. How good is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 18 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: It'll be funny if Gilman tries to fight the Iowa lineup after the dual. What a turn of events that would be He's a different guy now, more mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 hours ago, Idaho said: Sure.... Still doesn't change that cutting another 6 pounds for an entire season is different. Joe Smith would like word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 6 hours ago, NM1965 said: How good is he? 2023 U20 World Team Trials Runner-Up to Bouzakis. Beat Aden Valencia in challenge tourney finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 23 hours ago, H82Lose said: Hughes will AA at 133 this year, mark that one down. Pretty sure you could get a sig bet with fly on that and we all know he needs a new avatar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 18 hours ago, ionel said: Joe Smith would like word. True... he could just come in at the end for a best 2-3 wrestle-off. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 22 hours ago, NM1965 said: How good is he? tough as hell, if he can keep his weight under control, it is on this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 On 5/24/2024 at 6:31 PM, CowboyYe2024 said: thats what I am thinking but I have only seen him wrestle one college guy though I get it, he is just a RS not a lot of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 On 5/26/2024 at 9:08 AM, H82Lose said: I get it, he is just a RS not a lot of experience. but he still will probably AA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poke1 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, CowboyYe2024 said: but he still will probably AA I personally think he's better than Fix!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 17 minutes ago, poke1 said: I personally think he's better than Fix!!! somebody is smoking too much of the za Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, poke1 said: I personally think he's better than Fix!!! lol pump the brakes on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poke1 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, H82Lose said: lol pump the brakes on that one. ok, ok maybe I'm a little too excited about Hughes taking over for Fix, but Fix seemed to have a hard time there at the end of his career with the younger studs. They seemed to out funk and scramble Fix, like Frost, Bouzakis, Arujau, and Ragusin. I feel like Hughes and Fix both 4X undefeated State Champions are similar but Hughes with a little more funking sh$t in his style. And with Hughes not really having a College resume yet, it is interesting to note that he did beat in high school some of the up and coming high school greats like Sirgio Lemley, Luke Lilledahl, Mason Gibson, Nasir Bailey, Evan Frost and Aden Valencia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, poke1 said: ok, ok maybe I'm a little too excited about Hughes taking over for Fix, but Fix seemed to have a hard time there at the end of his career with the younger studs. They seemed to out funk and scramble Fix, like Frost, Bouzakis, Arujau, and Ragusin. I feel like Hughes and Fix both 4X undefeated State Champions are similar but Hughes with a little more funking sh$t in his style. And with Hughes not really having a College resume yet, it is interesting to note that he did beat in high school some of the up and coming high school greats like Sirgio Lemley, Luke Lilledahl, Mason Gibson, Nasir Bailey, Evan Frost and Aden Valencia. This is some bonkers stuff. Fix beat all of the guys you mentioned except Arujau. They didn't outscramble him. He didn't even touch Vito's leg for the most part. Vito scored clean off his own shots. And Vito's a world champ. He wasn't outscrambling Fix, he was just better at wrestling. Being a 4X Oklahoma champ doesn't mean they were similar in HS. There are tons of 4X Oklahoma champs, and most never come close to Fix's level. You are massively reaching to say Hughes is close to Fix, let alone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, boconnell said: This is some bonkers stuff. Fix beat all of the guys you mentioned except Arujau. They didn't outscramble him. He didn't even touch Vito's leg for the most part. Vito scored clean off his own shots. And Vito's a world champ. He wasn't outscrambling Fix, he was just better at wrestling. Being a 4X Oklahoma champ doesn't mean they were similar in HS. There are tons of 4X Oklahoma champs, and most never come close to Fix's level. You are massively reaching to say Hughes is close to Fix, let alone better. He’s just excited about his guy. And while there have been quite a few 4xers in OK there have not been many undefeated 4Xers. And Hughes does have a nice hit list. The future is bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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