Jimmy Cinnabon Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 28 minutes ago, paboom said: I've been saying for years that Tom should move Terry to the RTC, dump Morningstar and Telford and hire from the outside. Telford makes absolutely no sense. He can really only work with the heavies. Ideally you want someone who competed at 174-197. And noone that's under the age of 45 even knows who Bobby Telford is... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) On 5/8/2024 at 1:51 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said: So what? John Smith and David Taylor had 0 coaching experience before getting hired as HC of Oklahoma State. Hehe, OSU really didn't have much of a choice after Joe Seay was fired. I heard OSU offered Gable, among others. Edited May 13 by NM1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, NM1965 said: Hehe, OSU really didn't have much of a choice after Joe Seay was fired. I heard OSU offered Gable, among others. Pretty sure Gable offer was before Seay when let Chesbro go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) Bubba Jenkins Edited May 13 by KLCarnegieTech_1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Bubba Jenkins This joke, man. How many times can we make this same joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, jackwebster said: This joke, man. How many times can we make this same joke? There is never too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, ionel said: There is never too many. Cradle defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) I'll say what half of you are thinking, 3 black coaches with no connection to the program will go over like a fart in church in Iowa City. Edited May 13 by KCMO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/9/2024 at 4:08 AM, Husker_Du said: for the love of everything holy..... STOP talking about JB and J'den coaching in college. there's is nothing a wrestling fan can do to immediately signify 'i have absolutely no idea what i'm talking about' Mr. Pastry at his finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNwrestling Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/8/2024 at 1:23 PM, feet2back said: Kerry McCoy was an Olympian and might have been the worst coach in D1 history I'm not trying to be a dick here but as someone who lives in Tennessee and primarily follows the SoCon, i can tell you wholeheartedly, you're wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_daze Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, KCMO2 said: I'll say what half of you are thinking, 3 black coaches with no connection to the program will go over like a fart in church in Iowa City. Dumb post. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, strange_daze said: Dumb post. Not really. There are a lot of dumb rednecks in rural states who are racist as hell, not to mention alumni who don't want to hire "outsiders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 minutes ago, NM1965 said: Not really. There are a lot of dumb rednecks in rural states who are racist as hell, not to mention alumni who don't want to hire "outsiders". Southern Illinois is a perfect example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 24 minutes ago, TexRef said: Southern Illinois is a perfect example Southern Oklahoma is the same way. So is Northern Oklahoma. So is Eastern Oklahoma and Western Oklahoma, now that I think about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Sorry, the Venn Diagram above isn't accurate for Cowboy fans. Here's the updated diagram for OSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_daze Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 14 hours ago, NM1965 said: Not really. There are a lot of dumb rednecks in rural states who are racist as hell, not to mention alumni who don't want to hire "outsiders". It's a dumb post for a few reasons. For one: go ahead and name an existing staff in a DI program that represents the type of diversity we're talking about here. They may exist, but they are few and far between, and they don't currently appear in the top 20 as far as I can tell. Which means: it's a lame jab at Iowa being racist when, in reality, it's a much more systemic issue in the sport and in the country. It's perhaps true that alumni tend to like 'insiders' more than 'outsiders', but in looking at this year's top 10 teams, only 3 have head coaches that came from the program. These are basic data points. I'd add: I take exception at the idea that rural people are somehow more racist than non-rural. In my experience, some of the most open-minded people I've ever met are from the country; likewise, some of the most close-minded and openly racist are well-to-do people who live in (sub)urban areas. You make a fair point about 'dumb rednecks', but it applies to 'dumb white collar' people as well--the very people who, in many cases, have the economic means to shape program development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 6 hours ago, NM1965 said: Sorry, the Venn Diagram above isn't accurate for Cowboy fans. Here's the updated diagram for OSU. There are more dumb and racist folk in big cities, prove it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, ionel said: There are more dumb and racist folk in big cities, prove it wrong. Chill out Francis, can't you take a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 32 minutes ago, NM1965 said: Chill out Francis, can't you take a joke? Yes Sargent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNwrestling Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 44 minutes ago, NM1965 said: Chill out Francis, can't you take a joke? "Lighten up, Francis" is what you meant to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 hours ago, NM1965 said: Not really. There are a lot of dumb rednecks in rural states who are racist as hell, not to mention alumni who don't want to hire "outsiders". Absolutely. I don't agree with, but it's facts. And a poster calling 'dumb post' on it needs to catch a clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, KCMO2 said: Absolutely. I don't agree with, but it's facts. And a poster calling 'dumb post' on it needs to catch a clue. He said its a joke, not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 hours ago, TNwrestling said: "Lighten up, Francis" is what you meant to say. Updated for modern audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 hours ago, ionel said: He said its a joke, not true. It's a joke, but where did I say it wasn't true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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