NM1965 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) 20 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: I’ve wrestled some wolverine mfers who felt like they were made of wood. I have watched gabe dean’s eyes after he got absolutely rag dolled by kyle dake. There are levels to human beings. A man who had 40 lbs on dake, and a man who finished 3-1-1-2 at ncaa’s. People tell the same stories about John Smith from the 2000’s in the OSU room. I think Mike Mal said it best. “Eric Guerrero would ragdoll me, just embarrass me, I can’t move him a foot, and then he would go with John, and he would look like he’d never wrestled a day in his life.” So yes, I believe those stories. Our ego’s don’t want us to believe those stories. Video evidence is helping keep our egos in check. I actually deleted my post. What I stated was true, but I decided I didn't want to deal with the hassle from Gable-worshippers! You are probably right about ego not wanting us to believe those stories. That said Gabe wrestled 184 and Dake was 165 his last year. 19 pounds is significant, but that's a long road to hoe from Dan Gable weighing 150 pounds and supposedly tossing about 190 pounders or HWTs in practice. Now I could believe Gable maybe getting takedowns on bigger guys, but "ragdolling"? No way. Edited May 7 by NM1965 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 24 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: I’ve wrestled some wolverine mfers who felt like they were made of wood. I have watched gabe dean’s eyes after he got absolutely rag dolled by kyle dake. There are levels to human beings. A man who had 40 lbs on dake, and a man who finished 3-1-1-2 at ncaa’s. People tell the same stories about John Smith from the 2000’s in the OSU room. I think Mike Mal said it best. “Eric Guerrero would ragdoll me, just embarrass me, I can’t move him a foot, and then he would go with John, and he would look like he’d never wrestled a day in his life.” So yes, I believe those stories. Our ego’s don’t want us to believe those stories. Video evidence is helping keep our egos in check. Oh, what wolverines are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) This will be interesting. As others said, I imagine Kennedy will be one, which is also interesting as it opens up a job at PSU. Dake certainly seems like an option as well, but if he stays in State College and plans to go another cycle, what about Nolf? Edited May 7 by 1032004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 14 minutes ago, ionel said: Yes ... Dake wins all fantasy coaching matches above 42 degrees. LMFAO...wow. I said I didn't think Dake would be a great face of the program...he just feels a little too...Aaron Rodgers-ey to me(ignore the political stuff, I'm talking about the other stuff)...but just the weird about some stuff. But, hard to argue with either...when it comes to their respective success in their sport. Though, Rodgers did say he thought psychedelic shrooms strengthened tendon, and he got a little lax on his intake before last NFL season. *Again, NOT vaccine or politically related!!! I want that to be clear. Not a hill I'm even climbing, much less fighting on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Bubba Jenkins middle weight coach. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Gilman, Kennedy, Cox. He needs an upper weight and their might not be a better one in the country right now, as far as optics goes, than Cox. Bury the hatchet and make the phone call today, DT. Gilman and Kennedy almost seem like formalities need to simply be made at this point. Cox is the final piece. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Did Smith have any say in this? I mean, does he wield a Gable-like influence over Cowboy wrestling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 I can't see any of the current assistants surviving the transition. I cant even imagine Chris Perry having a conversation with David Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 8 hours ago, scorenomore said: Do you not remember the wet mat fest with Cox? No way. yes to Kennedy and Gilman. Not to mention the Taylor twitter snarky attacks on Cox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 20 minutes ago, jackwebster said: Did Smith have any say in this? I mean, does he wield a Gable-like influence over Cowboy wrestling? Smith allegedly was arguing for Scott late in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Smith allegedly was arguing for Scott late in the game. Ugghhh. This might be a fkn disaster: we got two powerful ego-maniacs (JWS and DT) at odds from the jump. Edited May 7 by jackwebster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 hours ago, Doublehalf said: Let it begin! who do we have for assistants?? I have a feeling Mark McKnight goes out there with him for some reason. Dake I'm not sure about especially with what his family is going through right now... maybe after the Olympics and things settle down he could be a guy that heads out there... Does he keep Perry? Does Coleman want any part in it? Someone has to run M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, wrestle87 said: I’ve wrestled some wolverine mfers who felt like they were made of wood. I have watched gabe dean’s eyes after he got absolutely rag dolled by kyle dake. There are levels to human beings. A man who had 40 lbs on dake, and a man who finished 3-1-1-2 at ncaa’s. People tell the same stories about John Smith from the 2000’s in the OSU room. I think Mike Mal said it best. “Eric Guerrero would ragdoll me, just embarrass me, I can’t move him a foot, and then he would go with John, and he would look like he’d never wrestled a day in his life.” So yes, I believe those stories. Our ego’s don’t want us to believe those stories. Video evidence is helping keep our egos in check. This reminds me of Roy Batty's "tears in the rain" monologue in Blade Runner. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." Edited May 7 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 hours ago, Doublehalf said: Let it begin! who do we have for assistants?? I have a feeling Mark McKnight goes out there with him for some reason. Dake I'm not sure about especially with what his family is going through right now... maybe after the Olympics and things settle down he could be a guy that heads out there... Does he keep Perry? Does Coleman want any part in it? Perry will stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 on the show Basch and Willie did last night Basch said he had heard Kennedy and Gillman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRound Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 hours ago, Doublehalf said: Let it begin! who do we have for assistants?? Cael Sanderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Take your pick, David Taylor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 The best move would be to keep Coleman Scott on staff. He actually has experience running a program, and would be a tremendous asset to Taylor. Taylor understands the wrestling side of it, but will need someone who can actually navigate the administrative side of things. Scott might be the best guy for this job. He's got experience, he knows the kids, and he's a Cowboy. Unfortunately, there might be an air of weirdness that would prevent this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 I know a lot of guys absolutely love Mike Macch and practically fight over him to be their training partner. Would he ever fit into something like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 16 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: The best move would be to keep Coleman Scott on staff. He actually has experience running a program, and would be a tremendous asset to Taylor. Taylor understands the wrestling side of it, but will need someone who can actually navigate the administrative side of things. Scott might be the best guy for this job. He's got experience, he knows the kids, and he's a Cowboy. Unfortunately, there might be an air of weirdness that would prevent this. Weirdness ? Coleman Scott is probably burning every piece of Oklahoma state clothing that he owns right now . He sold his house left a pretty good head coaching position and moved his family across the country with promises he was the next head coach , now one way or the other he’s out of a job , how many years will he have to wait til another job even on the UNC level presents itself? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 12 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I know a lot of guys absolutely love Mike Macch and practically fight over him to be their training partner. Would he ever fit into something like this? He was in the corner for a couple of HS kids at U20s recently. Seems to be a well-liked guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Just now, Antitroll2828 said: Weirdness ? Coleman Scott is probably burning every piece of Oklahoma state clothing that he owns right now . He sold his house left a pretty good head coaching position and moved his family across the country with promises he was the next head coach , now one way or the other he’s out of a job , how many years will he have to wait til another job even on the UNC level presents itself? Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Just now, Le duke said: He was in the corner for a couple of HS kids at U20s recently. Seems to be a well-liked guy. Yes, PJ Duke if I recall. He has been to many Worlds as a training partner of both Cox and Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: moved his family across the country with promises he was the next head coach I don't believe this to be true, yet admittedly am guessing. I think it's more likely is that John said he'd vouch for him and being there a year would give him a big leg up. It's hard to believe the AD promised him a head coaching job a year from now and it wasn't Smith's to promise. I'm not even sure legally the AD could promise Scott a future HC job with all the red tape involved in public university hiring... I too feel for Scott, but it seems more likely he took a calculated gamble and lost. Edited May 7 by Gantry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 16 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I know a lot of guys absolutely love Mike Macch and practically fight over him to be their training partner. Would he ever fit into something like this? And a few PSU people I know say he is the nicest man in the world. My sense is he is universally liked and respected. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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