ionel Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:20 PM, MPhillips said: Never confuse fishing with trolling... Expand troll2 verb fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat. gerund or present participle: trolling "we trolled for mackerel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 Once they are done with the portal I think Iowa's lineup looks like this for next year: 125: Figueroa 133: Crookham 141: Alirez/Mendez 149: Alirez/Henson 157: Haines 165: Mesenbrink 174: Starocci 184: Keckeisen 197: Buchanan 285: Kerkvliet There will be a three way wrestle off between Alirez, Henson, and Mendez for the two spots. With this lineup, I think they keep it a little closer to PSU, but in the end it isn't enough. 1 2 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:29 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Once they are done with the portal I think Iowa's lineup looks like this for next year: 125: Figueroa 133: Crookham 141: Alirez/Mendez 149: Alirez/Henson 157: Haines 165: Mesenbrink 174: Starocci 184: Keckeisen 197: Buchanan 285: Kerkvliet There will be a three way wrestle off between Alirez, Henson, and Mendez for the two spots. With this lineup, I think they keep it a little closer to PSU, but in the end it isn't enough. Expand Will they also portal in a new head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:29 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Once they are done with the portal I think Iowa's lineup looks like this for next year: 125: Figueroa 133: Crookham 141: Alirez/Mendez 149: Alirez/Henson 157: Haines 165: Mesenbrink 174: Starocci 184: Keckeisen 197: Buchanan 285: Kerkvliet There will be a three way wrestle off between Alirez, Henson, and Mendez for the two spots. With this lineup, I think they keep it a little closer to PSU, but in the end it isn't enough. Expand Starocci will be at 184 but the rest checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 Unfortunately since @Wrestleknownothing is a PSU fan, I have to take his shittalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:41 PM, Fletcher said: Starocci will be at 184 but the rest checks out. Expand Good point. So either Hendrickson cuts to 174, or Braeden Davis bulks up to 174. Maybe both and another wrestle off. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) On 4/30/2024 at 4:42 PM, VakAttack said: Unfortunately since @Wrestleknownothing is a PSU fan, I have to take his shittalk. Expand Not shittalk. I heard most of HR/GIA was about to post this. By heard I meant felt. By felt I meant hoped. By hoped I meant made up. Edited April 30, 2024 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 3:05 PM, VakAttack said: Mizzou took 11th. Expand With their own wrestlers. Take away Iowa's store-bought transfers and they take 18th. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:04 PM, KCMO2 said: With their own wrestlers. Take away Iowa's store-bought transfers and they take 18th. Expand I'm very sorry that their attempts to recruit high-end transfers have so far failed. Maybe Hendrickson will change his mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:08 PM, VakAttack said: I'm very sorry that their attempts to recruit high-end transfers have so far failed. Maybe Hendrickson will change his mind? Expand I'm very sorry that Iowa buys 2/3 of their NCAA points yet still can't buy a trophy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:04 PM, KCMO2 said: With their own wrestlers. Take away Iowa's store-bought transfers and they take 18th. Expand Maybe Mizzou should get some "store-bought transfers" because having 5 of "their own wrestlers" go 0-2 at the dance can't be fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:11 PM, Winners Circle said: Maybe Mizzou should get some "store-bought transfers" because having 5 of "their own wrestlers" go 0-2 at the dance can't be fun. Expand It wasn't, but stealing studs from other teams is not the answer. That does nothing but hurt the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:11 PM, KCMO2 said: I'm very sorry that Iowa buys 2/3 of their NCAA points yet still can't buy a trophy. Expand Still can't buy a trophy THIS YEAR, thank you very much. Pretty much every other year, though....hey when was the last time your team won a trophy? And how many in the history of your program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 LOL Missouri is literally recruiting transfers HARD right now as we speak. They were in on McGonagle (and lost out) and are currently in on Hendrickson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) On 4/30/2024 at 5:14 PM, KCMO2 said: It wasn't, but stealing studs from other teams is not the answer. That does nothing but hurt the sport. Expand Like it or not, it's the world we're living in. Get with it or get left behind. Okie State was very much against it in the beginning and saw their results dip. But finally brought in a stud transfer (Olejnik), and liked how that experiment went and now are all in on it. It's part of the deal if you want to win. Edited April 30, 2024 by Winners Circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:16 PM, VakAttack said: LOL Missouri is literally recruiting transfers HARD right now as we speak. They were in on McGonagle (and lost out) and are currently in on Hendrickson. Expand My transfer activity is virtuous. All other is tawdry. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) On 4/30/2024 at 5:16 PM, Winners Circle said: Like it or not, it's the world we're living in. Get with it or get left behind. Okie State was very much against it in the beginning and saw their results dip. But finally brought in a stud transfer (Olejnik), and liked how that experiment went and now are all in on it. It's part of the deal if you want to win. Expand Elaborating further. 4 out of the top 5 teams this year had multiple transfers in their lineup, with Cornell being the exception (I don't think Ivies can even take transfers). Edited April 30, 2024 by Winners Circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 5:15 PM, VakAttack said: Still can't buy a trophy THIS YEAR, thank you very much. Pretty much every other year, though....hey when was the last time your team won a trophy? And how many in the history of your program? Expand Really want to bring up the past? I remember when Iowa won trophies and titles with their own wrestlers. Now they buy 2/3 of their points and still can't trophy. How's that working out? I understand that times have changed, but christ, if they even did a half-assed job of developing their own talent this year then they half trophied. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 (edited) On 4/30/2024 at 5:29 PM, KCMO2 said: Really want to bring up the past? I remember when Iowa won trophies and titles with their own wrestlers. Now they buy 2/3 of their points and still can't trophy. How's that working out? I understand that times have changed, but christ, if they even did a half-assed job of developing their own talent this year then they half trophied. Expand You're bringing up this year, but your team took 11th. You're bringing up the lack of a trophy this year without acknowledging that they lost multiple starters (including high point scorers) to a stupid (and illegal) gambling sting operation that only two schools in the country had to deal with. You're criticizing bringing in transfers while your team is actively recruiting transfers. You're just being disingenuous because you want to dunk on Iowa, but they literally outperformed your team (and it's two total team trophies). I have to grin and bear it from teams that beat Iowa, but not from the 11th place finisher who on a yearly basis underperform their seeds, no sir, not on my watch. Edited April 30, 2024 by VakAttack 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:45 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Not shittalk. I heard most of HR/GIA was about to post this. By heard I meant felt. By felt I meant hoped. By hoped I meant made up. Expand But are you willing to bet 1M CB that this is the lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 6:18 PM, ionel said: But are you willing to bet 1M CB that this is the lineup? Expand Depends. What is the exchange rate between CB and Stanley Nickels? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 4:43 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Good point. So either Hendrickson cuts to 174, or Braeden Davis bulks up to 174. Maybe both and another wrestle off. Expand Kyle Dake started aging backwards about 4-5 years ago so he may have a year of eligibility back he could slot in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 I wonder if Jacori ends up going 165, I know that was the original plan, but by the sounds of it there is no way levi is doing 157 again so you'd think it would be worth it to make the cut at what looks like a deep but wide-open weight next year. Meyer will be back, but they never hit so while I'm one of the biggest believers in Meyer there is you'd have to put Jacori as the pre-season favorite and close to a lock to make the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 6:23 PM, Truzzcat said: Kyle Dake started aging backwards about 4-5 years ago so he may have a year of eligibility back he could slot in. Expand Little known fact is, not only is Dake getting younger, he is also getting larger and smaller at the same time. It is a quantum thing. If you aren't a theoretical physicist you wouldn't understand. But, as a result, he is actively petitioning the NCAA to change the compete at one weight rule. Cornell and PSU lawyers (again - the quantum thing) are all over this. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 30, 2024 Share Posted April 30, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 6:22 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Depends. What is the exchange rate between CB and Stanley Nickels? Expand Probably about 1 to 1 when you place the bet. But the beauty of the cinna-buck is it becomes worthless upon transfer to pay off the debt from a losing bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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