braves121 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: yes, it could mean swords as well. but at the time, there were already pistols, muskets and cannon. so arms is all of those already available and those that are coming. They weren't really that stupid.. or do you think they were. and seeing you didn't understand what bear arms meant... it's no surprise you don't understand what came of US v Miller So what exactly came of Us vs Miller? My main takeaway was it says gun control is constitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, braves121 said: How did you come to the consensus i don’t know what bear arms means? ” Sure it could be these but most of us think its guns, firearms, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 45 minutes ago, ionel said: Sure it could be these but most of us think its guns, firearms, etc. But there’s no right to bear legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Offthemat said: But there’s no right to bear legs. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, ionel said: This is true. There is, however: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, Offthemat said: There is, however: hmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, braves121 said: How did you come to the consensus i don’t know what bear arms means? If I didn’t know why would i argue that the 2A allows weapons it’s just there’s mo verbiage regarding “guns” and “firearms” Which means nothing but you feel good about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 you keep proving you are an expert. but only at semantics you must be a lawyer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 hours ago, braves121 said: So what exactly came of Us vs Miller? My main takeaway was it says gun control is constitutional. common to soldier of the day. i told you already. you have to be the burner acct for the other guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipdrag Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 4/29/2024 at 7:15 PM, braves121 said: Remember, no taxation without representation Representation without taxation is one of our biggest problems. People who pay no federal income taxes and very few other taxes get to vote on how to divvy up my earnings and to vote for politicians/policies leading to massive debt. How could that possibly go wrong?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 hours ago, Lipdrag said: Representation without taxation is one of our biggest problems. People who pay no federal income taxes and very few other taxes get to vote on how to divvy up my earnings and to vote for politicians/policies leading to massive debt. How could that possibly go wrong?!? Many citizens pay zero federal income tax. Donald trump payed $0 in federal income tax in 2020 so should he not be able to vote? Should anyone who gets a federal refund not be able to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, braves121 said: Many citizens pay zero federal income tax. Donald trump payed $0 in federal income tax in 2020 so should he not be able to vote? Should anyone who gets a federal refund not be able to vote? A federal refund doesn't mean you paid zero taxes. What are you even talking about? And are you sure with all Trumps various businesses there were zero federal taxes paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ionel said: A federal refund doesn't mean you paid zero taxes. What are you even talking about? And are you sure with all Trumps various businesses there were zero federal taxes paid? Anyone making under the standard deduction pays no federal income tax or gets all the fed tax they payed refunded that’s what I’m mainly referring too with tax refunds. Trump filed his personal tax return as paying $0 in federal tax. So as a citizen he paid no federal income tax it doesn’t matter if he has business that paid tax, his personal tax return showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax Edited May 2 by braves121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, braves121 said: Anyone making under the standard deduction pays no federal income tax that’s what I’m mainly referring too with tax refunds. You get a tax refund when you have more withheld than you owe, doesn't mean you paid zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, ionel said: You get a tax refund when you have more withheld than you owe, doesn't mean you paid zero. It doesn’t necessarily mean you paid zero but still many people who make under the standard deduction receive all the money back they payed in federal income tax meaning they paid zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, braves121 said: It doesn’t necessarily mean you paid zero but still many people who make under the standard deduction receive all the money back they payed in federal income tax meaning they paid zero Might we assume you gained this knowledge through personal experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Might we assume you gained this knowledge through personal experience? Yep worked my way part time through high school and college along with the Gi bill so I’m familiar. In your eyes it’s a negative and bad thing i know this through personal experience so you’re tryna have a gotcha moment? Edited May 2 by braves121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Personal experience is an enduring method for learning, but can be untimely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 40 minutes ago, braves121 said: Yep worked my way part time through high school and college along with the Gi bill so I’m familiar. In your eyes it’s a negative and bad thing i know this through personal experience so you’re tryna have a gotcha moment? I worked in high school and college but paid federal tax. Maybe you took the Trump route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 hours ago, braves121 said: Many citizens pay zero federal income tax. Donald trump payed $0 in federal income tax in 2020 so should he not be able to vote? Should anyone who gets a federal refund not be able to vote? He donated his entire salary for 4 years to charitable causes. I think that comes out to 1.6 million dollars. I believe that would be a tax deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Paul158 said: He donated his entire salary for 4 years to charitable causes. I think that comes out to 1.6 million dollars. I believe that would be a tax deduction. In his 2020 return there showed no donations to any charities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Is it mandatory to report every donation to charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Offthemat said: Is it mandatory to report every donation to charity? He made a huge deal about donating his salary to charity. It’s a little odd that he wouldn’t report it on his taxes. The dude claims credit for stuff that he had nothing to do with so it’s odd he’s not gonna claim credit for donating his salary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, braves121 said: He made a huge deal about donating his salary to charity. It’s a little odd that he wouldn’t report it on his taxes. The dude claims credit for stuff that he had nothing to do with so it’s odd he’s not gonna claim credit for donating his salary What is odd is your insistence on making assurances of which you have no evidence to substantiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, braves121 said: He made a huge deal about donating his salary to charity. It’s a little odd that he wouldn’t report it on his taxes. The dude claims credit for stuff that he had nothing to do with so it’s odd he’s not gonna claim credit for donating his salary There is no requirement to use the Itemized Deductions schedule or even if you do to report donations. If you paid taxes you would probably know this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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