After watching OTT do we still think college should switch to freestyle?

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 4/23/2024 at 1:07 AM, NM1965 said:

I like mat wrestling too much to want college to switch to FS. I think Tom's idea above is pretty good, but I'd like the top guy to get more time than 10 seconds to work. Maybe 20 seconds would be better?

Also, I thought a guy had to get at least one 3 point NF in the match to score a techfall? 

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That rule was changed a number of years ago.

[Jim L]

  On 4/23/2024 at 1:07 AM, NM1965 said:

I like mat wrestling too much to want college to switch to FS. I think Tom's idea above is pretty good, but I'd like the top guy to get more time than 10 seconds to work. Maybe 20 seconds would be better?

Also, I thought a guy had to get at least one 3 point NF in the match to score a techfall? 

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10 seconds is a very long time if nothing is happening. If the bottom man does not need to work for an escape he can just turtle up and wait out the clock... 20 seconds would be an eternity.

Best compromise would be to let the mat wrestling continue if the top man is making progress, no one wants to seeca potential NF situation get stopped after a 20 second click expires. This puts the decision in the referees hand when to stop the mat wrestling. Not ideal but it is usually not a hard call and there can be guidelines on how much time the top man has to show progress.

[Jim L]

  On 4/22/2024 at 4:55 PM, Scouts Honor said:

we already have hired guns... why do we need more international kids training here

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Steel sharpen steel. The top guys in the US will get better bytraining with better athletes. 

[Jim L]

  On 4/22/2024 at 7:49 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

But speaking English doesn't mean they'd actually be interested in wrestling in America...

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A giant portion of the world wants to come to US for college. We are still the land of opportunity and still have the best universities in the world by far

[Scouts Honor]

  On 4/23/2024 at 10:54 AM, Jim L said:

Steel sharpen steel. The top guys in the US will get better bytraining with better athletes. 

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better athletes?

i was told the US is a meatgrinder

and by that logic... wouldn't the rest of the world also improve....

[forkemaz]

  On 4/23/2024 at 10:57 AM, Jim L said:

A giant portion of the world wants to come to US for college. We are still the land of opportunity and still have the best universities in the world by far

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This is a very American point of view. 

[ionel]

  On 4/23/2024 at 1:11 AM, NM1965 said:

I'm sure a lot of kids in other countries would love the chance to get out of some of those places and if wrestling punched their ticket they'd be thrilled to wrestle over here. 

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But most don't meet admission requirements. 

[Jim L]

  On 4/23/2024 at 12:55 PM, forkemaz said:

This is a very American point of view. 

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Fair enough. The land of opportunity is definitely and opinion and a biased American one at that.

However, number of foreign students is not:

And every ranking that I can find of the academics ha the US with at least 50% of the top 25 schools

 

 

[Jim L]

  On 4/23/2024 at 12:47 PM, Scouts Honor said:

better athletes?

i was told the US is a meatgrinder

and by that logic... wouldn't the rest of the world also improve....

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All those things can be true at the same time.

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

I imagine Americans would heartily welcome more Russians and Iranians coming to our colleges...