pokemonster Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Gantry said: Did Steiber do it? Stieber came close at the age of 18 (junior or senior year): "He was the lone high school wrestler to compete at the 2009 World Team Trials, a World Championships qualifier contested by U.S. Olympic-caliber wrestlers, where he placed fourth." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pokemonster said: Stieber came close at the age of 18 (junior or senior year): "He was the lone high school wrestler to compete at the 2009 World Team Trials, a World Championships qualifier contested by U.S. Olympic-caliber wrestlers, where he placed fourth." correct, he lost to Obe Blanc in the true third place match that year Edited April 22 by gromit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, pokemonster said: Stieber came close at the age of 18 (junior or senior year): "He was the lone high school wrestler to compete at the 2009 World Team Trials, a World Championships qualifier contested by U.S. Olympic-caliber wrestlers, where he placed fourth." all the more reason for blaze to go to Ohio state like Stieber 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, gromit said: Possibly not since "high schooler" (age 19) Henry Cejudo was the 55kg runner-up at the 2006 World Team trials, losing the best-of-three finals to Sammie Henson (who later won World bronze). I was thinking Cejudo may be the last to do it. Not sure if Aaron Pico did it too? He could be the first person under 18 to do it since Carr in 1972 (can anyone confirm that?) If that’s the case, that’s pretty rarified air! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliseeisgold Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 20 hours ago, Husker_Du said: i currently have it 1 - Duke 2 - Lockett 3 - Blaze but I'm updating after Vegas. i wouldn't argue with anyone who ordered those three in another fashion. you get in to nitpicking - but Duke is the most prolific scorer of the bunch. I guess you could argue Blaze had more matches against elite guys than Duke, but Blaze is typically lower/closer scores. of course i'm splitting hairs. He really doesn't dominate the way you would expect a stud to do dominate with big margins Stieber felt alot more dominant in high school.....and I believe had a better win vs a college guy Maybe he is more Kyle dake and it actually translates better than some of these studs that flameout Would of liked to of seen him against a more prolific offensive style then suriano and see how that match goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 yeah, he's more Suriano/Dake type right now. in that vein though, he almost never gets scored on. the Blazes are originally from Michigan. Marcus' school list started w/ PSU, Cornell, tOSU, Purdue and Iowa though the word is now that he's down to tOSU and PSU 1 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 21 hours ago, Husker_Du said: i currently have it 1 - Duke 2 - Lockett 3 - Blaze but I'm updating after Vegas. i wouldn't argue with anyone who ordered those three in another fashion. you get in to nitpicking - but Duke is the most prolific scorer of the bunch. I guess you could argue Blaze had more matches against elite guys than Duke, but Blaze is typically lower/closer scores. of course i'm splitting hairs. Who is Duke's best win? I know he missed some time. Has he had much opportunity to wrestle elite guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Duke's best wins #2-Henckel - Ironman Finals #1-Lockett - Journeymen Event #2-Bouzakis - Fargo Finals #2-Bouzakis by TF - S32 Finals #1-Kollin Rath - S32 Semis #2-Landon Robideau - S32 #1-Daniel Zepeda - S32 Eventual #1-Sergio Lemley - S32 For a brief moment #1-Cory Land - S32 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 7 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: Duke's best wins #2-Henckel - Ironman Finals #1-Lockett - Journeymen Event #2-Bouzakis - Fargo Finals #2-Bouzakis by TF - S32 Finals #1-Kollin Rath - S32 Semis #2-Landon Robideau - S32 #1-Daniel Zepeda - S32 Eventual #1-Sergio Lemley - S32 For a brief moment #1-Cory Land - S32 That's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Duke's best wins #2-Henckel - Ironman Finals #1-Lockett - Journeymen Event #2-Bouzakis - Fargo Finals #2-Bouzakis by TF - S32 Finals #1-Kollin Rath - S32 Semis #2-Landon Robideau - S32 #1-Daniel Zepeda - S32 Eventual #1-Sergio Lemley - S32 For a brief moment #1-Cory Land - S32psh, not even any good wins Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Eagle26 said: I was thinking Cejudo may be the last to do it. Not sure if Aaron Pico did it too? He could be the first person under 18 to do it since Carr in 1972 (can anyone confirm that?) If that’s the case, that’s pretty rarified air! Its very rare. Reading about Jimmy Carr he made our World Team in 1971 as a 16 year old and placed 6th. In 1973 He made the Junior Olympic team and won a World Championship. Unfortunately he passed away at the age of 58 from a motorcycle accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) Blaze hit list off the top of my head #2 Jax forrest - Clarion Open #2 Jax forrest - OTT #1 Luke Lilledahl- WTT wrestle back #1 Luke Lilledahl- Ironman finals #1 Anthony knox x2- U17 finals #3 leo Deluca- Ironman 3/4 #3 Ledo deluca- Ironman semi Matt ramos- Clarion open semi Nico Megaludis- WTT wrestle back I am not super familiar with Locketts results I know he won ironman and took third there and won super 32 but I feel like the two wins the fields were not as loaded. The tech over Meyer is nuts though and that avenged a loss he had at whos 1. Edited April 22 by Truzzcat mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, Truzzcat said: Blaze hit list off the top of my head #2 Jax forrest - Clarion Open #2 Jax forrest - OTT #1 Luke Lilledahl- Ironman Finals #1 Luke Lilledahl- Ironman finals #1 Anthony knox x2- U17 finals #3 leo Deluca- Ironman 3/4 #3 Ledo deluca- Ironman semi Matt ramos- Clarion open semi Nico Megaludis- WTT wrestle back I am not super familiar with Locketts results I know he won ironman and took third there and won super 32 but I feel like the two wins the fields were not as loaded. The tech over Meyer is nuts though and that avenged a loss he had at whos 1. Locket won U17 71 KG worlds last year. Hit list is everyone else on the planet U17 (last year) and under 71 KG. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: Duke's best wins #2-Henckel - Ironman Finals #1-Lockett - Journeymen Event #2-Bouzakis - Fargo Finals #2-Bouzakis by TF - S32 Finals #1-Kollin Rath - S32 Semis #2-Landon Robideau - S32 #1-Daniel Zepeda - S32 Eventual #1-Sergio Lemley - S32 For a brief moment #1-Cory Land - S32 Just curious has Duke been entering any college opens this past season. Its hard to keep up with all the high school guys entering and doing pretty well. Has Duke made any of our world teams U17 ,U20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 no. he's had a couple injuries that kept him out of trials/fargo/s32/ironman last year. he is just getting back in the swing of things and went to NHSCA's to get some decent mat time in prep for this tournament. it's still undecided if he'll do his senior year at home or will go the M2 route like Kasak and Ryder. 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 36 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Locket won U17 71 KG worlds last year. Hit list is everyone else on the planet U17 (last year) and under 71 KG. so did Blaze at 55 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 6 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: no. he's had a couple injuries that kept him out of trials/fargo/s32/ironman last year. he is just getting back in the swing of things and went to NHSCA's to get some decent mat time in prep for this tournament. it's still undecided if he'll do his senior year at home or will go the M2 route like Kasak and Ryder. you should sweet talk him into throwing his name in the hat for none olympic trials at 70kg if hes qualified I think he can go with those guys depending of course on how he does at u20's I look at his cadet trials in 22 as an outlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 23 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: no. he's had a couple injuries that kept him out of trials/fargo/s32/ironman last year. he is just getting back in the swing of things and went to NHSCA's to get some decent mat time in prep for this tournament. it's still undecided if he'll do his senior year at home or will go the M2 route like Kasak and Ryder. What is the M2 route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 live in state college, train at David Taylor's club and NLWC TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 A route that has produced a true freshman second a third with Haines and Kasak. Zack Ryder yet to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Just saw an Interview that said Blaze has not given up a takedown in his high school career and it made me think back to the last takedown Id seen him give up aside from the one against Suriano. I believe the last takedown he gave up was super 32 2022 against Forrest in the wrestle backs. So since then hes gone through ironman ,Ohio states, u17 trials, cadet worlds, Ironman once again, Ohio states once again and then olympic team trials and has surrendered one takedown. Edit palmer and forrest both took him down once at clarion open. Edited April 23 by Truzzcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Isn't the Blaze from Purdue his brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Jim L said: Isn't the Blaze from Purdue his brother? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Wouldn't that make Purdue at least part of the conversation? Also, not sure what the recruiting rules are now for students enrolled in other universities, but wouldn't it make sense for any college recruiting the younger Blaze to also go after Blaze the Elder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 7 minutes ago, Jim L said: Wouldn't that make Purdue at least part of the conversation? 15 hours ago, Husker_Du said: the Blazes are originally from Michigan. Marcus' school list started w/ PSU, Cornell, tOSU, Purdue and Iowa though the word is now that he's down to tOSU and PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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