mbowlsby Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 My guess is he gets at least one match at Solider Salute, likely two depending on performance and feel. Not sure it's realistic to think his gas tank will be at 100% this year given his injury/recovery, so it's more of a can he win a title at 70-80%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 1:25 PM, MPhillips said: Guy wrestling in the room is conditioning. If he's not wrestling in the room he can run and ride all he wants. He's gonna struggle to get in, "wrestling shape." Expand Sure, live wrestling in the room is part of conditioning. We don't know how much of that he is doing or will be able to do. But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape. He needs to prioritize getting in shape in the room over getting official matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:17 PM, Crotalus said: But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape. Expand If that's what they meant then those people shouldn't be allowed to post any longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:34 PM, MPhillips said: If that's what they meant then those people shouldn't be allowed to post any longer... Expand I may be reading into their comments a bit, but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape. I want to see him wrestle, but don't think that should be his priority. Pick and choose select opportunities and build him up, I say. On 12/17/2022 at 1:51 AM, CementMixer said: On 12/17/2022 at 1:18 AM, Formally140 said: I think if they coddle him too much he’ll not be in shape and ready for the top 10 3-5 matches in a row Expand It's going to be very difficult to build a gas tank on 1 match per month come early March. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:52 PM, Crotalus said: but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape. Expand I hear ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CementMixer Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 1:35 PM, mbowlsby said: My guess is he gets at least one match at Solider Salute, likely two depending on performance and feel. Not sure it's realistic to think his gas tank will be at 100% this year given his injury/recovery, so it's more of a can he win a title at 70-80%. Expand This is what I'm also thinking. Except I think more like 50-60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:52 PM, Crotalus said: I may be reading into their comments a bit, but it sounds like they are saying he needs more matches to have any chance at getting in shape. I want to see him wrestle, but don't think that should be his priority. Pick and choose select opportunities and build him up, I say. Expand Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again. He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman. Ended up at 29-0. Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:13 PM, BigRedFan said: Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right? Expand It was in March correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 3:17 PM, Crotalus said: Sure, live wrestling in the room is part of conditioning. We don't know how much of that he is doing or will be able to do. But people are claiming he needs more official matches to get in shape. He needs to prioritize getting in shape in the room over getting official matches. Expand His sunken in eyes told the tale to me. Big weight cut that zapped the fuel out of him. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:15 PM, MPhillips said: It was in March correct? Expand Beginning of January. January 7th, I believe. He gave an interview on 1/2 that referenced the surgery "on Friday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:25 PM, BigRedFan said: Beginning of January. January 7th, I believe. He gave an interview on 1/2 that referenced the surgery "on Friday." Expand Yeah. I believe I remember that now. Thanks BRF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:29 PM, MPhillips said: Yeah. I believe I remember that now. Thanks BRF. Expand Google search is your friend! I don't remember that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:31 PM, BigRedFan said: Google search is your friend! I don't remember that at all. Expand It didn't matter enough to me to go to the world wide web. I only remember it because you wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:36 PM, MPhillips said: It didn't matter enough to me to go to the world wide web. Expand laziness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:48 PM, ionel said: laziness Expand Pure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:13 PM, BigRedFan said: Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again. He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman. Ended up at 29-0. Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right? Expand Not really sure how that's relevant. Lee has a history of knee issues and recovery and rehab can't vary greatly. We don't know if Lee's healing has been slower or if he had any setbacks. Or if there is cause for just taking it as slow as possible given his history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 6:06 PM, Crotalus said: Not really sure how that's relevant. Lee has a history of knee issues and recovery and rehab can't vary greatly. We don't know if Lee's healing has been slower or if he had any setbacks. Or if there is cause for just taking it as slow as possible given his history. Expand Yeah, how can it be relevant? 3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year. Just another data point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 7:34 PM, BigRedFan said: Yeah, how can it be relevant? 3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year. Just another data point. Expand When is 2 > (2*1)? Probably in this case. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) On 12/18/2022 at 7:34 PM, BigRedFan said: Yeah, how can it be relevant? 3x NCAA champions who got knee surgery and wrestled the next year. Just another data point. Expand Lee had both knees done, and has had one done before. Using Yianni as any kind of baseline for Lee's recovery and what his season should look like competition-wise this year would be ridiculous. Edited December 18, 2022 by Crotalus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 5:13 PM, BigRedFan said: Yianni only had surgery on one knee, and possibly not as damaged, but nine months after March surgery, he began competition again. He wrestled four matches in his first tournament in November, and wrestled 11 matches by the end of December, with the last one avenging (again) his loss to Eierman. Ended up at 29-0. Spencer's surgery was nearly a year ago, right? Expand A knee that has been repaired twice has a longer recovery time, or so I was told by a PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 10:54 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: A knee that has been repaired twice has a longer recovery time, or so I was told by a PT. Expand Nah ... but every case can be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 As a guy in his late 50's and suffering some of the aches and pains of too many birthdays, and never having a knee surgery in my life, all I can say is that Lee is going to "hurt" a little in about 30-40 years. No, thanks. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 https://source.wustl.edu/2011/09/study-looks-at-why-second-acl-surgeries-often-fail/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 https://theathletic.com/2536485/2021/04/23/torment-all-over-again-what-its-like-to-suffer-multiple-acl-injuries/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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