flyingcement Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 was there ever a more blatant example of corruption than when they recruited him right as they gave his dad a job..... 1 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: was there ever a more blatant example of corruption than when they recruited him right as they gave his dad a job..... Meh 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 was there ever a more blatant example of corruption than when they recruited him right as they gave his dad a job.....That sounds similar to when PSU recruited Mark Hall after committing to his dream team Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 30 minutes ago, headshuck said: That sounds similar to when PSU recruited Mark Hall after committing to his dream team Minnesota. PSU does that constantly. Nolf has talked about it, Kerk committed to two school before PSU... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 55 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Is the Cardinal & Gold collective the Iowa State NIL pool? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: Is the Cardinal & Gold collective the Iowa State NIL pool? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 42 minutes ago, headshuck said: That sounds similar to when PSU recruited Mark Hall after committing to his dream team Minnesota. 11 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: PSU does that constantly. Nolf has talked about it, Kerk committed to two school before PSU... I don't recall any of Hall's, Nolf's, or Kerkvliet's fathers coaching at PSU. Did I miss something? 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I don't recall any of Hall's, Nolf's, or Kerkvliet's fathers coaching at PSU. Did I miss something? yeah they're all on staff....no i was referring to what headsuck alluded to, the practice of recruiting committed kids. And i shouldn't have called out PSU its common practice. Edited April 6 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: yeah they're all on staff....no i was referring to the practice of recruiting committed kids. And i shouldn't have called out PSU its common practice. I can't find anything that says Hall ever committed to Minnesota. The only thing I found said he announced his choice of PSU over Minnesota, Ohio State, ASU, and Wisconsin live on Flo. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I can't find anything that says Hall ever committed to Minnesota. The only thing I found said he announced his choice of PSU over Minnesota, Ohio State, ASU, and Wisconsin live on Flo. well i didn't reference that myself, in fact i hadn't heard it, i was referring to what headshuck said. If I had to guess, I'd bet headshuck had some knowledge of Hall giving a verbal commitment and not living up to it. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: yeah they're all on staff....no i was referring to what headsuck alluded to, the practice of recruiting committed kids. And i shouldn't have called out PSU its common practice. Didn't Fix's dad get a Strength and Conditioning position or something like that at OSU when Daton signed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: Didn't Fix's dad get a Strength and Conditioning position or something like that at OSU when Daton signed? now that you mention it, i remember something like that doing down. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 David Carr’s booger will be the glue that holds it all together. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, JuanMogen said: David Carr’s booger will be the glue that holds it all together. "Last impressions are lasting impressions" and in spite of winning the title all I can remember is that snot hanging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 17 minutes ago, flyingcement said: "Last impressions are lasting impressions" and in spite of winning the title all I can remember is that snot hanging Well, at least we know where the gold is coming from... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 well i didn't reference that myself, in fact i hadn't heard it, i was referring to what headshuck said. If I had to guess, I'd bet headshuck had some knowledge of Hall giving a verbal commitment and not living up to it.There were many stories about Mark Hall joining the Gophers, then it all changed. This story is kind of a mess. The stories leading up to it are lost in internet history.https://usatodayhss.com/2016/mark-hall-wins-sixth-minnesota-state-title-and-now-has-eyes-on-olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 18 minutes ago, headshuck said: There were many stories about Mark Hall joining the Gophers, then it all changed. This story is kind of a mess. The stories leading up to it are lost in internet history. https://usatodayhss.com/2016/mark-hall-wins-sixth-minnesota-state-title-and-now-has-eyes-on-olympics Your article literally says the opposite. He used J Robinson's criticism as motivation. Minnesota was clearly never his dream team. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 14 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Your article literally says the opposite. He used J Robinson's criticism as motivation. Minnesota was clearly never his dream team. forgive me for asking a question from the suspicious corner of my mind, but you seem skeptical about pretty much every claim of sleazy recruiting practices in this thread, is that the case? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: forgive me for asking a question from the suspicious corner of my mind, but you seem skeptical about pretty much every claim of sleazy recruiting practices in this thread, is that the case? I have no doubt there are sleazy practices, but hiring a clearly qualified coach who has a top rated son is opportuniistic, not sleazy. If Nate Carr was not qualified I would feel differently. The Hall claim was just flat out stupid. And I do not know what to make of recruiting with regard to Kerkvliet given the number of times he flipped and flopped. People are happy to talk about theories, rumors, and their personal grudges like they are fact. You, for example, were willing to accept @headshuck's clearly made up claims at face value. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 You’re such an ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, headshuck said: You’re such an ass. An ass like someone who makes up stuff about other people? That kind of ass? 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: well i didn't reference that myself, in fact i hadn't heard it, i was referring to what headshuck said. If I had to guess, I'd bet headshuck had some knowledge of Hall giving a verbal commitment and not living up to it. Hall never gave any kind of public verbal to Minnesota. Kerkvliet did commit to MN very early, like 10th grade I think, but changed his mind when he outgrew 197 and Gable also committed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 17 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I have no doubt there are sleazy practices, but hiring a clearly qualified coach who has a top rated son is opportuniistic, not sleazy. If Nate Carr was not qualified I would feel differently. The Hall claim was just flat out stupid. And I do not know what to make of recruiting with regard to Kerkvliet given the number of times he flipped and flopped. People are happy to talk about theories, rumors, and their personal grudges like they are fact. You, for example, were willing to accept @headshuck's clearly made up claims at face value. so you think hiring a recruits father at a pivotal time is ok if they are "qualified"(according to who and for what would be my quetion), but not if they aren't? And I can't speak for headshuck, but how can you justify saying he "clearly" made it up? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 31 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: so you think hiring a recruits father at a pivotal time is ok if they are "qualified"(according to who and for what would be my quetion), but not if they aren't? And I can't speak for headshuck, but how can you justify saying he "clearly" made it up? First question. Yes. Second question. A couple of reasons. Hall announced live on Flo that he was verbally committing to PSU. You do not have a live announcement on Flo if you have already committed elsewhere. And the article he posted talked about J Robinson calling out Hall for choosing to go to the Olympic training center and for committing to PSU. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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