Offthemat Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: Mike Lindell's and Kari Lake's 'explosive' new evidence of election skullduggery goes pfft Opinion: Strange, after reading the 52-page appeal — sans sheets — I didn't feel a shock. Not even a slight zap. Kari Lake and Mark Finchem continue their quest to outlaw Arizona’s vote counting machines, telling the U.S. Supreme Court they have “new evidence” that merits a “do-over” of the 2022 election. All week long, My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who is underwriting their lawsuit, has been touting “the most explosive evidence ever!” “It’s going to be the biggest thing ever, and we are going to save this country!" he said on Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast over the weekend. By Thursday, he’d upgraded his promise to one of global import. “It’s going to shock the world,” he told Steve Bannon on his War Room podcast, adding that people should buy his percale sheets to pass out to their friends along with the Supreme Court appeal. (“Get ‘em for everybody you know. Tell them about the Supreme Court case and here’s a set of sheets for you.”) My Pillow CEO's appeal isn't new Strange, after reading the 52-page appeal — sans sheets — I didn’t feel a shock. Not even a slight zap. Neither, apparently, did Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer. “Nothing new,” he told me on Friday. “Same old crazy. Zero percent chance the United States Supreme Court decides to spend its very limited time on something so crazy that it got sanctioned to the tune of $100,000-plus at the trial court level.” Lake and Finchem — then candidates for governor and secretary of state and for the U.S. Senate and state Senate — sued the state of Arizona and Maricopa County in April 2022, seeking to bar vote tabulators in the 2022 election. They claimed that even if the machines weren’t hacked, they could be hacked and there’s no way to verify the count unless we start voting with paper ballots. Arizona elections already use paper ballots Never mind that Arizona already uses paper ballots and, in fact, requires a hand count of a random sample of those ballots to verify the machine count. U.S. District Court John J. Tuchi dismissed their lawsuit in August 2022, and later slapped the Lake/Finchem lawyers with sanctions and the county’s $122,000 legal bill for their “frivolous” waste of court time and taxpayers’ money. To prevail, Tuchi said they’d have to not only prove that machines have security flaws but that someone actually manipulated the results to change the outcome of the election. The 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals upheld Tuchi’s dismissal in October, noting the lawsuit “relies on a ‘long chain of hypothetical contingencies’ that have never occurred in Arizona.” Put another way, a conspiracy must be more than a figment of your imagination — or a marketing scheme to sell sheets — if you want the courts to take you seriously. Lake and Finchem, in their Thursday appeal, say they have new evidence that warrants a “hand recount of the 2022 election and all future elections to be counted by hand.” It's the same argument since Trump lost Funny thing. The new evidence sounds pretty much like the same old Maricopa County-is-the-devil argument they’ve been making all along: altered software, faulty testing, coverups, the usual stuff the courts have rejected. Add now skullduggery apparently afoot at Dominion Voting Systems. According to the appeal, Dominion configured its tabulation machines in 30 states in such a way that hackers or Dominion workers intent on mischief can easily gain access to the count. “While this breach has the game-changing magnitude of the Allies’ deciphering Germany’s ENIGMA machine in World War II, it is far worse,” the appeal says. “Dominion leaves the decryption keys bare, in plain text. “Embedded Dominion employees or any malicious actor who knows where to look can gain total access and control over an election. It is like a bank telling the public they have the most secure vault in the world, and then taping the combination on the wall next to the vault door. “Even worse, key logging features that would record system activity showing such control can also be manipulated or disabled, thereby rendering any penetration of this system nearly undetectable.” I don’t know whether this is ENIGMA-level spy stuff that’ll shock the world. Or whether it’s even true. They appear to offer no backup to support their claim in the 210 pages filed with the Supreme Court. What I do know is that this appeal still doesn’t offer any evidence that Dominion’s machines — the ones various independent experts have confirmed were not connected to the internet — were hacked. Still, Lake and Finchem insist we deserve a “do-over relief” and an end to the machine tabulation of votes in America. Or at least, a new set of sheets. You and Laurie must have missed the part where a fellow borrowed a pen from the State’s attorney and used it to not only change the votes on a dominion machine that he had not had prior access to, but did so without leaving evidence of his manipulation. Here’s a video for you: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/let-my-people-go-fights-back-against-censorship/ Edited March 30 by Offthemat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 10 hours ago, Offthemat said: You and Laurie must have missed the part where a fellow borrowed a pen from the State’s attorney and used it to not only change the votes on a dominion machine that he had not had prior access to, but did so without leaving evidence of his manipulation. Here’s a video for you: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/let-my-people-go-fights-back-against-censorship/ Not going to waste 2 hours watching it. From what I gather, it's just more of the same things that have been discredited or thrown out of court for lacking real evidence. The former college professor who prominently features in it also concealed the real reason he was fired, and it wasn't "just" not wearing a mask. I'm the real world we look at things objectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 58 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: Not going to waste 2 hours watching 58 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: I'm the real world we look at things objectively. This needs a smiley face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Offthemat said: This needs a smiley face? When you decide to pull your head out of your ass let us know. Sounds like it's wedged in there pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: When you decide to pull your head out of your ass let us know. Sounds like it's wedged in there pretty good. That’s rich, coming from the one who won’t waste his time to inform his objectivity. While you’ve got your eyes closed and your ears covered, does it make you feel better to stamp your feet and squeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 42 minutes ago, Offthemat said: That’s rich, coming from the one who won’t waste his time to inform his objectivity. While you’ve got your eyes closed and your ears covered, does it make you feel better to stamp your feet and squeal? So far nobody has managed to find any actual proof that 2020 or 2022 were rigged or fixed. When presented with chances to do so, they either don't, or present things that aren't evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, Tripnsweep said: So far I have ignored any actual proof that 2020 or 2022 were rigged or fixed. When presented with chances to do so, I refuse. FTFY 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: So far nobody has managed to find any actual proof that 2020 or 2022 were rigged or fixed. When presented with chances to do so, they either don't, or present things that aren't evidence. Another one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 It seems like everyone who claims to have proof doesn't present it in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 Here is what an actual judge said to the evidence presented: District Court John J. Tuchi dismissed their lawsuit in August 2022, and later slapped the Lake/Finchem lawyers with sanctions and the county’s $122,000 legal bill for their “frivolous” waste of court time and taxpayers’ money. To prevail, Tuchi said they’d have to not only prove that machines have security flaws but that someone actually manipulated the results to change the outcome of the election. The 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals upheld Tuchi’s dismissal in October, noting the lawsuit “relies on a ‘long chain of hypothetical contingencies’ that have never occurred in Arizona.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: Here is what an actual judge said to the evidence presented: District Court John J. Tuchi dismissed their lawsuit in August 2022, and later slapped the Lake/Finchem lawyers with sanctions and the county’s $122,000 legal bill for their “frivolous” waste of court time and taxpayers’ money. To prevail, Tuchi said they’d have to not only prove that machines have security flaws but that someone actually manipulated the results to change the outcome of the election. The 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals upheld Tuchi’s dismissal in October, noting the lawsuit “relies on a ‘long chain of hypothetical contingencies’ that have never occurred in Arizona.” I’m beginning to believe you don’t live in AZ either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, Offthemat said: I’m beginning to believe you don’t live in AZ either. Definitely do. High of about 78 and very windy here. Going to rain probably the next 2 or 3 days. Also an ASU alumni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: Definitely do. High of about 78 and very windy here. Going to rain probably the next 2 or 3 days. Also an ASU alumni. Also live in AZ and can confirm. A majority in the state does not agree with qari lakes conspiracy theories and she will suffer another defeat whether it be in the primaries against lamb or in the general against Gallegos. Arizona is starting to come around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 14 minutes ago, braves121 said: Also live in AZ and can confirm. A majority in the state does not agree with qari lakes conspiracy theories and she will suffer another defeat whether it be in the primaries against lamb or in the general against Gallegos. Arizona is starting to come around Most people are just tired of hearing it. I have several non crazy Republican friends who vote straight ticket usually. But we have common ground on more than you think. We both dislike the evangelicals, the so called "moral right". We think the conspiracy crazies are no good. Basically all we disagree about is taxes and guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: Definitely do. High of about 78 and very windy here. Going to rain probably the next 2 or 3 days. Also an ASU alumni. 2 hours ago, braves121 said: Also live in AZ and can confirm. A majority in the state does not agree with qari lakes conspiracy theories and she will suffer another defeat whether it be in the primaries against lamb or in the general against Gallegos. Arizona is starting to come around SMH. Arizona could use better representation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 42 minutes ago, Offthemat said: SMH. Arizona could use better representation. That's what electing Ruben Gallego will be. He isn't wasting time with crackpot conspiracy theories that people have been hearing about for 4 years and are tired of. Plus he was a Marine and saw actual combat in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa morales Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Her problem is not having someone around to plug her hole on any kind of regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 3/29/2024 at 3:12 PM, Offthemat said: You couldn’t be more wrong. If there’s one thread that runs the gamut of lawfare litigation over the last few years, it’s evidence suppression. And you have more than innuendo to back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: And you have more than innuendo to back that up? You wouldn’t ask that question if you knew what you were talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 On 4/4/2024 at 7:25 AM, Offthemat said: You wouldn’t ask that question if you knew what you were talking about. So far she's been losing bigly in court. Chalk up another L. https://tucson.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/elections/supreme-court-tosses-latest-complaint-in-arizona-voting-machine-case/article_e4c13fd8-f38f-11ee-8a0b-93e808b37a79.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 18 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: So far she's been losing bigly in court. Chalk up another L. https://tucson.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/elections/supreme-court-tosses-latest-complaint-in-arizona-voting-machine-case/article_e4c13fd8-f38f-11ee-8a0b-93e808b37a79.html And you post a link to another example of suppression. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 4 hours ago, Offthemat said: And you post a link to another example of suppression. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I thought elections weren't rigged?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 22 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: At least you’re maintaining the same level of honesty in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 On 4/10/2024 at 2:09 PM, Offthemat said: At least you’re maintaining the same level of honesty in your posts. Supreme Court shoots it down and puts this myopic adventure to rest. Now she just has to worry about the discovery during the penalty phase of the civil trial she admitted defeat in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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