poorwrestler Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Michigan, mind you this is without any 'new' transfers in. 125 - Cannon 133 - Ragusin 141 - Lemley 149 - Gilcher 157 - Mantanona/Mattin 165 - Mantanona 174 - Amine/Walker 184 - Bullock/Rogers 197 - Waters/Rogers 285 - Jenkins Wish list: - Gilcher (Indiana), 157 - Hamiti (Wisconsin), 165/174 - Cardenas (Cornell), 197 - Pindrickson (Air Force), 285 I think 125 ends up not being Cannon (or Ragusin) and Ragusin ends up using a redshirt or him/Cannon got 133/141 and Lemley uses a redshirt. One of them at 125lbs is wishful thinking. It'll be Horvath or Wertanen by committee. I’m a little surprised Rylan Rogers has had trouble establishing himself. I liked him a lot in high school. Still time I suppose. Also, isn’t Joel Adams at Michigan or did I imagine that?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 45 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: I’m a little surprised Rylan Rogers has had trouble establishing himself. I liked him a lot in high school. Still time I suppose. Also, isn’t Joel Adams at Michigan or did I imagine that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ! I forgot about Adams! I am not sure who between him or Gilcher could man 157, then with the other going to other route. Adams is giving 67 KG a go for Greco, which is 147.7lbs. I suppose he could do a proper redshirt, but I think between those four (little Mantanona and Mattin) they should be manning 149/157. I suppose if Adams is 'small' enough he could go 141lbs and allow Lemley to redshirt, but I don't want any redshirts unless folks are injured and need it (see Cannon). In today's transfer world you don't know if/when you'll be able to start, especially at a school like Michigan. As far as Rogers? I think it is less he couldn't establish himself and more Bullock made a huge leap this last offseason. He would have been right there as far as expected output as where Bullock was, so that is a wash for me. He doesn't have trouble with the weight... Bullock just got huge and went big-brother on him. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: ! I forgot about Adams! I am not sure who between him or Gilcher could man 157, then with the other going to other route. Adams is giving 67 KG a go for Greco, which is 147.7lbs. I suppose he could do a proper redshirt, but I think between those four (little Mantanona and Mattin) they should be manning 149/157. I suppose if Adams is 'small' enough he could go 141lbs and allow Lemley to redshirt, but I don't want any redshirts unless folks are injured and need it (see Cannon). In today's transfer world you don't know if/when you'll be able to start, especially at a school like Michigan. As far as Rogers? I think it is less he couldn't establish himself and more Bullock made a huge leap this last offseason. He would have been right there as far as expected output as where Bullock was, so that is a wash for me. He doesn't have trouble with the weight... Bullock just got huge and went big-brother on him. I would defer to your insight, but I can’t see how Adams would make 141 for a whole season. I can’t see Gilcher up at 157. Not sure who wins between the two considering Adams basically had a year away from folk and Gilcher had mixed results and that is generous. It is possible Adams could fill out to 157 by now—but not sure I see Gilcher succeeding up at 157 with his frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: I would defer to your insight, but I can’t see how Adams would make 141 for a whole season. I can’t see Gilcher up at 157. Not sure who wins between the two considering Adams basically had a year away from folk and Gilcher had mixed results and that is generous. It is possible Adams could fill out to 157 by now—but not sure I see Gilcher succeeding up at 157 with his frame. I agree with you. I am also hoping we might see the older Gilcher brother in the portal and on the way to wrestle with his brother for his final year, next year. That would be cool to see. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I would defer to your insight, but I can’t see how Adams would make 141 for a whole season. I can’t see Gilcher up at 157. Not sure who wins between the two considering Adams basically had a year away from folk and Gilcher had mixed results and that is generous. It is possible Adams could fill out to 157 by now—but not sure I see Gilcher succeeding up at 157 with his frame.Between Gilcher, Adams, both Mantanona’s, and Cam Catrabone in 2024 it did always seem like Michigan was going to have too much of a log jam at 149-165. It’ll be even worse if Lemley can’t hold 141 but I’m sure he can for at least another year or two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: Between Gilcher, Adams, both Mantanona’s, and Cam Catrabone in 2024 it did always seem like Michigan was going to have too much of a log jam at 149-165. It’ll be even worse if Lemley can’t hold 141 but I’m sure he can for at least another year or two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think Lemley will be fine at 141. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I think Lemley will be fine at 141. He is legit. And I agree, not a huge 141 at all….sets up nicely for a great career at UM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 27 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: Between Gilcher, Adams, both Mantanona’s, and Cam Catrabone in 2024 it did always seem like Michigan was going to have too much of a log jam at 149-165. It’ll be even worse if Lemley can’t hold 141 but I’m sure he can for at least another year or two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Catrabone seems like a 157/165 to me. I haven’t seen little Mantanona recently so not sure. But with Catrabone’s Dad an alum, Adams on board for the greco at CK, Gilcher a local boy and Mantanona’s brother on the roster—none seem likely to transfer. The logjam may be up in the air long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: Michigan, mind you this is without any 'new' transfers in. 125 - Cannon 133 - Ragusin 141 - Lemley 149 - Gilcher 157 - Mantanona/Mattin 165 - Mantanona 174 - Amine/Walker 184 - Bullock/Rogers 197 - Waters/Rogers 285 - Jenkins Wish list: - Gilcher (Indiana), 157 - Hamiti (Wisconsin), 165/174 - Cardenas (Cornell), 197 - Pindrickson (Air Force), 285 I think 125 ends up not being Cannon (or Ragusin) and Ragusin ends up using a redshirt or him/Cannon got 133/141 and Lemley uses a redshirt. One of them at 125lbs is wishful thinking. It'll be Horvath or Wertanen by committee. Amine said he ll be back next year , i didn’t realize lewan was done , thought he had another year, thank god though no lewan means about 20 less 1-1 OT matches a year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Amine said he ll be back next year , i didn’t realize lewan was done , thought he had another year, thank god though no lewan means about 20 less 1-1 OT matches a year Beau Mantanona will be quite a change of pace for UM fans—crazy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Catrabone seems like a 157/165 to me. I haven’t seen little Mantanona recently so not sure. But with Catrabone’s Dad an alum, Adams on board for the greco at CK, Gilcher a local boy and Mantanona’s brother on the roster—none seem likely to transfer. The logjam may be up in the air long term.Yeah I wasn’t necessarily implying transfers, just saying there’ll be some interesting lineups moving forward. They’re set up really nicely if one or two of those recruits don’t live up to their ranking or grow more than expected. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Beau Mantanona will be quite a change of pace for UM fans—crazy! I think Mantanona has Oly aspirations, so I imagine he will want to be 165 or 174 for 74 KG. 14 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Amine said he ll be back next year , i didn’t realize lewan was done , thought he had another year, thank god though no lewan means about 20 less 1-1 OT matches a year I hope Lewan can find solace in knowing that he had a more successful career than ~99%+ NCAA D1 wrestlers can claim. I am hoping Hamiti coming in (hopefully) can get Amine to open up a bit. Not sure who goes 174lbs there between the two. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: I think Mantanona has Oly aspirations, so I imagine he will want to be 165 or 174 for 74 KG. I hope Lewan can find solace in knowing that he had a more successful career than ~99%+ NCAA D1 wrestlers can claim. I am hoping Hamiti coming in (hopefully) can get Amine to open up a bit. Not sure who goes 174lbs there between the two. I would not be shocked if he ends up at 184 he is really think but has a huge frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 125- Spratley 133- Hughes 141- Jamison 149- Williams 157- Saldate/Travis 165- Hamiti 174- Brayden thompson 184- Plott 197- Surber/Cody Merill 285- Carroll (I hope) Doucet if the freshman can make some good jumps in level with another off season + weights losing guys this seems like a pretty dangerous team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: I would not be shocked if he ends up at 184 he is really think but has a huge frame I don't think he can beat Bullock right now. Give him a couple years to grow in to it? Sure, maybe. He does have a redshirt to use and abuse, if he so wishes. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I don't think he can beat Bullock right now. Give him a couple years to grow in to it? Sure, maybe. He does have a redshirt to use and abuse, if he so wishes. agree! I more so meant by the time he graduates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Ohio St aka tOSU 125- Davino 133- Bouzakis 141- Mendes 149- Sasso 157- Joey Blaze/Dylan D'Emilio 165 Gallagher 174- Kharchla 184- Welsh 197 Sonny Sasso Hvy Feldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said: Ohio St aka tOSU 125- Davino 133- Bouzakis 141- Mendes 149- Sasso 157- Joey Blaze/Dylan D'Emilio 165 Gallagher 174- Kharchla 184- Welsh 197 Sonny Sasso Hvy Feldman Is this a wish list? 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 27 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Is this a wish list? Yes, that could also become reality. Its not a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, RandolphTJones said: Ohio St aka tOSU 125- Davino 133- Bouzakis 141- Mendes 149- Sasso 157- Joey Blaze/Dylan D'Emilio 165 Gallagher 174- Kharchla 184- Welsh 197 Sonny Sasso Hvy Feldman Doesn’t sound like Sammy is coming back , the nerve damage is affecting his leg pretty bad and I don’t think Sasso leaves Virginia tech unless he thinks Stewart is moving up and he can’t beat him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, RandolphTJones said: Yes, that could also become reality. Its not a stretch. Two are Frosh at other colleges and extremely happy. Two are injured and done. One has been wrestling 132 and 138. The moat realistic one is the true frosh dropping ~10lbs. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorenomore Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 125 - Kilkeary 133 - Bouzakis 141 - Mendez 149 - Sasso - he's coming back, maybe late December, but he's coming 157 - Cannon - could see Blaze in a package deal with his younger brother 165 - Kharchla 174 - Welsh 184 - Rogotzke 197 - Geog/Potential transfer, but unlikely 285 - Feldman This lineup will score points at nationals and is likely to have multiple finalists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) @Idaho@CraigOR - what do you guys think for the Beavers? 125: Maximo Renteria 133: Gabe Whisenhunt 141: Cleveland Belton 149: Nash Singleton 157: CJ Hamblin / Murphy Menke / Dagen Condomitti / Ayden Garver 165: Kekana Fouret 174: Matthew Olguin 184: Trey Munoz 197: Justin Rademacher 285: Aden Attao 157 seems like it could use a bit of a boost. but otherwise quite solid. I hope we see Attao next year Edited March 30 by flyingcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 [mention=27]Idaho[/mention][mention=221]CraigOR[/mention] - what do you guys think for the Beavers? 125: Maximo Renteria 133: Gabe Whisenhunt 141: Cleveland Belton 149: Nash Singleton 157: CJ Hamblin / Murphy Menke / Dagen Condomitti / Ayden Garver 165: Kekana Fouret 174: Matthew Olguin 184: Trey Munoz 197: Justin Rademacher 285: Aden Attao 157 seems like it could use a bit of a boost. but otherwise quite solid. I hope we see Attao next yearI’m excited about Aden Attao. That kid is impressive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, flyingcement said: @Idaho@CraigOR - what do you guys think for the Beavers? 125: Maximo Renteria 133: Gabe Whisenhunt 141: Cleveland Belton 149: Nash Singleton 157: CJ Hamblin / Murphy Menke / Dagen Condomitti / Ayden Garver 165: Kekana Fouret 174: Matthew Olguin 184: Trey Munoz 197: Justin Rademacher 285: Aden Attao 157 seems like it could use a bit of a boost. but otherwise quite solid. I hope we see Attao next year That's pretty close I think, but definitely a few question marks. Excited about Renteria entering the lineup as well as how Attao will transition. Yeah, 157 will be a battle between a few guys. I would probably put Noah Tolentino in there at 149 with Singleton. He was the starter this year and was injured in one of the first duals. Singleton was the 2nd 141 who bumped up and won that spot. Was really happy with how Rademacher performed as a true freshman. Went from getting hammered by Stemmet to beating him twice at the end. As with any team, the off-season work will be crucial. I am also interested to see what happens with the portal. Last year OSUW brought in McDermott and Wittlake. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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