Antitroll2828 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Just now, red viking said: Huh? Over Mirasola, who already qualified for olympic trials? Whatever. Cochran bumped up to heavy this year and beat an AA and has wins over a few qualifers in his career, only Ls to beard and Cardenas (rough Ls though), he’s been in the room for awhile and has been one of Brooks main practice partners (Brooks sat out matches in the past just to Cochran a chance to start) , the guys and coaches love him. Cael loves giving guys like him the first chance to start and if they falter then the freshman goes so Cochran will get first chance at grabbing the spot unless PSU brings in a transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 11 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said: It wouldnt shock me if Gibson went 125 in college. Hes pretty short and wasnt going to start over Forrest. He wrestled a bit at 138 before switching with Bassett.... Yea but he’s built like a fire hydrant and muscle weighs more than fat so he may end up 133 but most likely too short to be a 141 ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGTENFANBOY Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Yea but he’s built like a fire hydrant and muscle weighs more than fat so he may end up 133 but most likely too short to be a 141 ever I agree, but it still wouldnt shock me. I think 133 would be a natural weight for him, but i dont see him filling that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyBadger Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 What weight does Lilledahl go and does he redshirt? If he wrestles right away either Davis or Nagao are likely out of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 What weight does Lilledahl go and does he redshirt? If he wrestles right away either Davis or Nagao are likely out of the lineup.Next year 125 Davis, Lilledahl RS133 Nagao Year after125 Lilledahl, Davis RS133 NagaoYear after 125 Davis133 LilledahlNagao graduates. Seems pretty seamless to me. Could flip around Davis/Lilledahl redshirt years if they want too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomblvd Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said: What weight does Lilledahl go and does he redshirt? If he wrestles right away either Davis or Nagao are likely out of the lineup. At the start of the season when Davis started they said that he was likely to move up to at least 133 given his build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 57 minutes ago, Tomblvd said: At the start of the season when Davis started they said that he was likely to move up to at least 133 given his build. Agree. Plus, given Lilledahl’s freestyle talents & aspirations at 57k, I see him as more of a 125, at least early career at PSU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Is Barraclough coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 So is Robbie Howard hitting the portal or what? Can he still wrestle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, SocraTease said: I see Penn State redshirting Kasak when SVN returns. I could also imagine MM and Haines switching places. I don’t know about Mesenbrink going down, but I just can’t envision Haines staying at 157 again. He looks huge to me and I think his gas tank was down a bit this year. He’s pretty young so likely still growing. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he leap frogs MM and takes over at 174 if Starocci is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 22 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: So is Robbie Howard hitting the portal or what? Can he still wrestle? Sadly I think his shoulder is cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Eagle26 said: I don’t know about Mesenbrink going down, but I just can’t envision Haines staying at 157 again. He looks huge to me and I think his gas tank was down a bit this year. He’s pretty young so likely still growing. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he leap frogs MM and takes over at 174 if Starocci is done. They really should switch. Haines is huge and Mesenbrink is a small 165 pounder. He got big brothered by Carr last night, especially when Carr was on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: They really should switch. Haines is huge and Mesenbrink is a small 165 pounder. He got big brothered by Carr last night, especially when Carr was on top. I agree he doesn’t look huge at 165, but his conditioning is his best weapon. Why run the risk of loosing that by cutting too much? He lost a super close match to a 6th year senior and the weight is all his next year. No reason for him to risk losing his edge by going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 What odds would you give Haines against KOT at 165 or 174? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, fishbane said: He is far behind Gable in AAs. He could surpass him but it would be in more years of coaching even if you limit Sanderson's sample size to just PSU years. As you pointed out 20 for 20 in Big Ten title will be a tall order and her certainly won't be able to do it in his first 20 years like Gable. Gable had 15 team titles in 20 years. Sanderson has 11 in 18 years. If you remove the COVID year it's 11 in 17. If you remove the ISU years it's 11 in 15. If you remove the ISU years and the COVID year it's 11 in 14. Can't get 15 in his first 20. He could get 15 in fewer than 20 years at PSU. Two Gable records Cael won't touch. Winning the Conference 21 straight years he coached and nine straight NCAA Titles. Most others are within reach if he stays as head coach. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Does he have another year? I think he does. So does Jacob Cardenas and he cannot compete for Cornell because he graduates and no grads for Ivy teams. Cardenas is looking . . . . hm. Not an easy call between Keck and Cardenas - does Keck have the frame for 197? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 14 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said: Two Gable records Cael won't touch. Winning the Conference 21 straight years he coached and nine straight NCAA Titles. Most others are within reach if he stays as head coach. 3. Most statues of themselves on campus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Two Gable records Cael won't touch. Winning the Conference 21 straight years he coached and nine straight NCAA Titles. Most others are within reach if he stays as head coach. I think he could certainly win 9 straight NCAA titles. 21 straight conference championships no though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 23 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: I think he could certainly win 9 straight NCAA titles. 21 straight conference championships no though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think Sanderson cares about Conference championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 125: Luke Lilledahl 133: Aaron Nagao / Braeden Davis RS 141: Beau Bartlett / Tyler Kasak RS 149: Shayne Van Ness 157: Levi Haines 165: Mitchell Mesenbrink / Joe Sealey RS 174: Carter Starocci / Alex Facundo / Zach Ryder RS 184: Josh Barr 197: Connor Mirasola 285: Greg Kerklivet / Cole Mirasola RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, SocraTease said: I don't think Sanderson cares about Conference championships. On top of that, when Gable started at Iowa the Big ten honestly was second fiddle by a wide margin to the Big12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 125: Luke Lilledahl 133: Aaron Nagao / Braeden Davis RS 141: Beau Bartlett / Tyler Kasak RS 149: Shayne Van Ness 157: Levi Haines 165: Mitchell Mesenbrink / Joe Sealey RS 174: Carter Starocci / Alex Facundo / Zach Ryder RS 184: Josh Barr 197: Connor Mirasola 285: Greg Kerklivet / Cole Mirasola RSIf Nagao can get right and they get some points out of 174/184/197, that is a salty ass lineup. I know Iowa fans think Ayala is going to smoke everyone from yesterday onwards but Lilledahl is really, really good. Beating people of the same caliber as Ayala as a high school senior. Figs’ training partner, actually.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On top of that, when Gable started at Iowa the Big ten honestly was second fiddle by a wide margin to the Big12. And Penn State wasn’t in the conference.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomblvd Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 What reasoning do people have that they automatically assume SVN is better than Kasak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 15 minutes ago, Le duke said: If Nagao can get right and they get some points out of 174/184/197, that is a salty ass lineup. I know Iowa fans think Ayala is going to smoke everyone from yesterday onwards but Lilledahl is really, really good. Beating people of the same caliber as Ayala as a high school senior. Figs’ training partner, actually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Do you think Nagao could get squeezed out of the lineup? I expect Davis to fill out in the offseason and have no idea if 133 is a hard cut for Nagao. He looks pretty big for the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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