cowcards Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 23 hours ago, flyingcement said: Kinda leads to the question: has a wrestler ever before won the title and the following season used a regular redshirt (not Olympic or medical) All won as a Jr: Pete Bush (Redshirted due to injury) Barry Davis (Redshirted for Olympics) Gene Mills (Redshirted for Olympics) Darrion Caldwell (Redshirted due to injury) Jordan Burroughs (Redshirted due to injury) And in case you don't count those previous 5, but they used a regular redshirt: Pat Smith Jim Gregson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwt1 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 On 5/1/2024 at 10:56 PM, macwoodfleet said: A huge difference between Penn state sending out two guys who never wrestled a national tournament for anyone else in MM and Kerkvliet and Iowa and michigan basing their entire programs now on poaching older kids. “Entire programs” - exaggerate much? Iowa, Mich and PSU all had 30-40% of starting lineup and Iowa’s was mainly due to the gambling issue. They “may” have 20-30% this year, but doubt they get that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 11 hours ago, Winners Circle said: He went 4-5 this season and had losses to: Murphy Menke (Oregon State), Chittum, Ed Scott (15-3 score), Askey, and Jonathan Ley (Navy; 12-2 score). Not sure I'd consider this as "shoring up a hole". I appreciate your opinion, but I will go with Coach Austin O'Connor's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 11 hours ago, gromit said: yeah, but what's his record vs. large reptiles? Let me answer your question with a question. In the event of a large Crocnado, who do you want fighting by your side? Danny Nini or Levi Haines? I wouldn't risk my life or the lives of my family on somebody with, as far as we know, zero experience with large reptiles. I would rather fight side by side with the guy who laid on top of a gator as comfortable as a six-year old watching Saturday morning cartoons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 8 hours ago, hawkguy said: Much better than me at what game? What does this even mean lmao Honestly, I was just stirring the honeypot there. I am here for entertainment value, really. Have a good day. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 3 hours ago, Hwt1 said: “Entire programs” - exaggerate much? Iowa, Mich and PSU all had 30-40% of starting lineup and Iowa’s was mainly due to the gambling issue. They “may” have 20-30% this year, but doubt they get that many. Well they have 1 for sure (Caliendo), and seems like a high likelihood that they get at least one more, probably more than that. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. As of now PSU is already projected to start 3 transfers and Michigan 2, with Michigan in particular likely looking for more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Still waiting on Parco/Teemer updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 13 hours ago, flyingcement said: He's solid on defense, but I don't see him as a starter on a top team right now. He could be a star of a smaller MAC program though. Maybe ACC? Him leaving OK State probably wasn't a good idea but if he were to go to a ACC team, Pitt, Duke, Stanford? Just want the best. Still has a lot of potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killdozer Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 @flyingcement don't mean to be a stickler but it is Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville so it is SIU-E not SIEU (or SIUE if you don't like hyphens). There is also Southern Illinois University - Carbondale and that is SIUC (or SIU-C if you are a big fan of hyphens). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Still waiting on Parco/Teemer updates. Just like all of us.... However, Teemer isn't in the portal. Cannon...Bearclaw....Alirez....when it happens it will be posted. Edited May 3 by Idaho 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 41 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Maybe ACC? Him leaving OK State probably wasn't a good idea but if he were to go to a ACC team, Pitt, Duke, Stanford? Just want the best. Still has a lot of potential. ACC is P4P the 2nd toughest conference in D1 NCAA wrestling. He has a better shot at success in the B12 (more bottom feeders there) - just my opinion. That said, a lot of his potential destination(s) as well as weight will be dependent on his future aspirations. He has been competing at 70 KG for Serbia internationally. They don't typically do 'off' weights for Senior level. That means he needs to head towards 65 KG (~143.3lbs) or 74 KG (~163.1lbs). Him to 141 or 157 would make sense for either of those... he could also stay 149, but he would need to head to 65 KG after that - were that the goal. All this said, I know I said ACC was more difficult, but North Carolina makes sense for him. There are many folks there with senior level aspirations. Michigan makes sense... same thing. He would immediately compete for a starting spot at 149lbs... or perhaps 141lbs and 'allow' Lemley to redshirt. I can't think of (m)any MAC programs that have substantial international presence. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: I appreciate your opinion, but I will go with Coach Austin O'Connor's. Him going 4-5 and having losses to: Murphy Menke (Oregon State), Chittum, Ed Scott (15-3 score), Askey, and Jonathan Ley (Navy; 12-2 score) is not an opinion. You can do with that information what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 19 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Him going 4-5 and having losses to: Murphy Menke (Oregon State), Chittum, Ed Scott (15-3 score), Askey, and Jonathan Ley (Navy; 12-2 score) is not an opinion. You can do with that information what you will. Results don't lie.... On the flip side, if you have nobody at a weight, then someone transfers in, I guess you are technically "filling a hole".... then, what you are filling the hole with becomes the question. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 5 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Let me answer your question with a question. In the event of a large Crocnado, who do you want fighting by your side? Danny Nini or Levi Haines? I wouldn't risk my life or the lives of my family on somebody with, as far as we know, zero experience with large reptiles. I would rather fight side by side with the guy who laid on top of a gator as comfortable as a six-year old watching Saturday morning cartoons. Worth pointing out that he's not the first Illini with gator experience. Pat Quirk wrastled gators and finished 2nd at NCAA. He did have a little trouble with Munoz but thats a different animal. Think of the NIL coin Quirk could earn today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Man Flo sucks at keeping up with the portal. This is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Man Flo sucks at keeping up with the portal. This is stupid. Thats why we pay @flyingcement the big bucks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Man Flo sucks at keeping up with the portal. This is stupid. FLO is what we have. 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Thats why we pay @flyingcement the big bucks. Cement is what we want... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Wrestling Fan Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 15 hours ago, nhs67 said: From what I am hearing on the ground is he is homesick, but it isn't a guarantee he even leaves (think Slav). Homesick, to me, tells me Oregon State or somewhere with friends, such as Cal Poly or Purdue. I also think I had read somewhere that both ASU and North Carolina were considerations too, but I haven't heard any of that first hand. As long as he succeeds wherever ge goes, I am happy I would love to see him at Campbell U. Their 184 graduated and they have a very solid team returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, killdozer said: @flyingcement don't mean to be a stickler but it is Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville so it is SIU-E not SIEU (or SIUE if you don't like hyphens). There is also Southern Illinois University - Carbondale and that is SIUC (or SIU-C if you are a big fan of hyphens). I appreciate the correction and have fixed it in my file. thanks brother 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Just now, flyingcement said: don't mean to be a stickler but it is Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville so it is SIU-E Just like it's OKST, not OSU... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 49 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: Man Flo sucks at keeping up with the portal. This is stupid. So, just as FYI that you are going to see it on social media before FLO. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) 23 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Just like it's Ohie St, not OSU... ftfy Edited May 3 by ionel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 23 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Just like it's OKST, not OSU... And even notter- tOSU! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 32 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Just like it's OKST, not OSU... Calling anybody but Oklahoma State OSU is just plain disrespectful. Especially being as Ohio State University proper calls themself tOSU... 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Calling anybody but Oklahoma State OSU is just plain disrespectful. You're usually better than this. Perhaps this is just you for entertainment purposes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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