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1 minute ago, NM1965 said:

DC just said the that HWTs today "look like football players". If he's referring to linemen they are fat as hogs. 

DC must be drunk, he's so well versed and knowledgable, for him to be putting out stupidity like this, he must be doing this commentary effectively for free, or he must have signed an agreement as with UFC/espn back in the day to be doing this, bc he doesn't usually sound like a complete jackass on his ufc broadcasts.

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9 minutes ago, JuanMogen said:

Everybody getting their peters in bunch worried about Penn State. Looks like they'll be 18-2 for the day once Sleepy Greg finishes up with the GriessMan.

That is very impressive.

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1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Hutmacher was robbed by the fact they couldn't waste a brick on him.

He also couldn't get a stalling call to save his life. For all his titty boy wrestling, he was taking shot after shot and Cleveland State kept backing out of bounds like a fat version of Hidlay. I'm not saying he got hosed, but he earned some calls he didn't get

i am an idiot on the internet

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2024 NCAA Championships

                                         Pts.           Max.      I f seeds hold                     Q-finals                       Cons. 2

Team Standings
Team Points Maximum
Potential
Points
If
Seeds
Hold
# Round 2 # QF # Consi # Cons 2
Penn State 34.5 275.5 150.5 8 8 2 2
Iowa 24.5 245.5 67 6 4 3 4
Iowa State 22 243 64.5 6 4 3 4
Nebraska 21 240.5 60.5 8 7 1 1
North Carolina State 20.5 241 81.5 6 5 4 3
Michigan 20 241 52 8 4 1 4
Cornell 18.5 215.5 59.5 7 3 2 4
Ohio State 18.5 216 50.5 6 2 3 5
Virginia Tech 16 237 51 7 4 3 4
Oklahoma State 14 186.5 50.5 7 3 3 3
Missouri 13 137 44 5 2 5 2
South Dakota State 13 159 40 3 2 5 4
Wisconsin 13 134.5 28 3 2 2 3
Arizona State 12 160 56 6 3 2 2
Northern Iowa 12 133.5 40 3 2 4 3
Indiana 10.5 160 10.5 3 0 3 5
Lehigh 9.5 109 55.5 4 2 4 1
Rutgers 9 182.5 22 5 1 3 5
Stanford 9 131 14 5 1 0 4
Campbell 8 133 15 3 0 3 4
Minnesota 8 205.5 23.5 5 2 5 5
Pittsburgh 8 182 9 0 0 7 6
Penn 7.5 105.5 11 1 0 7 4
West Virginia 7.5 80.5 21 2 1 3 2
Air Force 7 55.5 19 2 1 1 1
Little Rock 6.5 106.5 12.5 2 1 3 2
Oklahoma 6.5 82 11 3 1 2 1
Maryland 6 106.5 7 0 0 5 3
Navy 6 128 9 3 1 2 4
Columbia 5.5 78.5 8.5 2 1 2 2
Oregon State 5.5 105.5 16.5 1 1 4 2
Appalachian State 5 103 6 4 0 1 4
North Carolina 5 105 12 2 1 3 2
Virginia 5 105.5 5.5 2 0 2 3
Bucknell 4 102 5.5 3 0 2 4
Cal Poly 3.5 103.5 8 2 1 3 2
Central Michigan 3.5 52.5 3.5 1 0 2 2
Rider 3.5 55 4 0 0 5 1
Wyoming 3.5 77 12.5 2 0 1 3
Binghamton 3 78.5 8.5 2 1 2 1
Cal Baptist 3 27.5 3.5 0 0 2 1
George Mason 3 27.5 1 0 0 3 1
Princeton 3 79 5.5 0 0 3 2
Army 2.5 78.5 3.5 1 0 5 2
Lock Haven 2.5 51 2.5 1 1 2 1
Michigan State 2.5 51.5 2.5 1 0 4 2
Purdue 2.5 51 13 1 1 4 1
Illinois 2 26 13.5 1 1 2 0
North Dakota State 2 26.5 2.5 0 0 1 1
Northwestern 2 51 2 0 0 3 2
Ohio 2 51 11 2 0 1 2
Buffalo 1.5 1.5 0.5 0 0 2 0
Chattanooga 1.5 50.5 1.5 1 0 1 2
Northern Colorado 1.5 50.5 2 1 0 2 2
Franklin & Marshall 1 25.5 1 1 0 1 1
Harvard 1 25.5 1 1 0 2 1
Long Island 1 1 1 0 0 1 0
Utah Valley 1 25.5 1.5 1 0 0 1
VMI 1 1 1 0 0 1 0
Gardner Webb 0.5 25 0.5 0 0 2 1
SIUE 0.5 25 0.5 0 0 1 1
American 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Brown 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Clarion 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Cleveland State 0 27 0.5 0 0 2 0
Hofstra 0 27 0 0 0 1 0
Northern Illinois 0 0 0 0 0 2 0
The Citadel 0 0 0 0 0 1 0


Note: Teams in RED have been mathematically eliminated from the team title race.

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1 hour ago, tiger-style said:

Yeah, Mizzou has not done well... Surtin, Moore, Mauler, Gioffre, and Mocco all two and out. Not sure what happened, these guys just regressed as the season progressed.

They never seemed the same after that mid-year sickness hit. 

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ESPN coverage is pretty poor in my estimation:

1.  WAY, WAY too many commercials (in the middle of matches or as matches are ready to commence)

2. They cut away from interesting matches or don't show key sequences because they are focused on fan and coach reactions or interviews

3. Too little insightful analysis about the matches (they substitute emotional responses)

4.  Too much talking about other unrelated topics

5. They need to find someone like David Taylor to provide technical insight. 

Grade D

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2 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

ESPN coverage is pretty poor in my estimation:

1.  WAY, WAY too many commercials (in the middle of matches or as matches are ready to commence)

2. They cut away from interesting matches or don't show key sequences because they are focused on fan and coach reactions or interviews

3. Too little insightful analysis about the matches (they substitute emotional responses)

4.  Too much talking about other unrelated topics

5. They need to find someone like David Taylor to provide technical insight. 

Grade D

I find this to be harsh, but I was on ESPN+ matcast.  were you on cable ESPN?

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8 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I find this to be harsh, but I was on ESPN+ matcast.  were you on cable ESPN?

I was on ESPNU in the afternoon and ESPN in the evening but following particular matches (without commentary) on ESPN  +.   I stand by my comments, however.

So many cliches (especially from D.C.) or vapid statements like "He's really really good" or "He's really strong" or "These are not the heavyweights from years ago" etc.   I would rather hear Robles on commentary.   Enthusiasm and hyperbole are not legitimate substitutes for insight, analysis or even play by play description.  They are cover ups for not doing your homework or knowing the nuances of a particular wrestler or match.

Can you imagine this kind of commentary and cutting to commercials and non-sequiturs and false information being tolerated for basketball or football or soccer?  I can't.  

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