Threadkilla Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 He is 19-2 and finished ahead of 5 guys in the top 10 and beat 3 H2H, (depending on ranker). He has as many good wins as anybody in the country. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 I’m sure @jajensen will be along to make the case for Smith over Davis based on head to head, plus Husker.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Hard to argue with. It will be unpopular, but he just outplaced what seems like all the best in the weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Probably. He has better wins and better losses than all the other conference champs I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 No argument here. I just don't think it'll matter too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Winner of Big Ten in this years 125 was always going to be the most likely 1 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Stanich could also make an argument, but Davis should be 2 at worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 (edited) On 3/11/2024 at 12:38 AM, flyingcement said: Stanich could also make an argument, but Davis should be 2 at worst Expand At this point Braeden has far more better wins and far better losses. Hard to see him not jumping Stanich Edited March 11, 2024 by PortaJohn 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:40 AM, PortaJohn said: At this point Braeden has far more better wins and far better losses. Hard to see him not jumping Stanich Expand Davis giving up bonus to Caleb Smith was a noteworthy consideration that I consider worth of bringing to the table. I think Davis is the more likely number one, but concede an argument to be made for Stanich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:44 AM, flyingcement said: Davis giving up bonus to Caleb Smith was a noteworthy consideration that I consider worth of bringing to the table. I think Davis is the more likely number one, but concede an argument to be made for Stanich Expand Fair point. Wonder if the loss to Jax Forrest will play into it at all even if it's not officially on Stanich's record for seeding I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:52 AM, PortaJohn said: Fair point. Wonder if the loss to Jax Forrest will play into it at all even if it's not officially on Stanich's record for seeding Expand That's the other thing. For me, I'd hold it against him - but for others, they may not. Davis still should be the betting favorite to be the one seed I'd think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Does it matter when 8 can beat 1 as often as the other way around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:55 AM, Pinnacle said: Does it matter when 8 can beat 1 as often as the other way around. Expand Not this year I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted March 11, 2024 Author Share Posted March 11, 2024 (edited) On 3/11/2024 at 12:52 AM, PortaJohn said: Fair point. Wonder if the loss to Jax Forrest will play into it at all even if it's not officially on Stanich's record for seeding Expand Agreed, I think Davis is pretty clear #1. But I will wait for Pyles confirmation tomorrow. Edited March 11, 2024 by Threadkilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 Seems likely that Michael Joyce is the 33rd seed and Tristan Lujan the 32nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted March 11, 2024 Author Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 1:00 AM, flyingcement said: Seems likely that Michael Joyce is the 33rd seed and Tristan Lujan the 32nd Expand So Davis is in trouble? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:30 AM, PortaJohn said: Probably. He has better wins and better losses than all the other conference champs Expand Losses don’t come into play. Stanch will have him beat in coaches rank. Davis will have him beat in winning %. Probably will come down to RPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 1:30 AM, Pish said: Losses don’t come into play. Expand Good Point. Quality wins is 20% which I believe Davis should have another advantage I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 1:48 AM, PortaJohn said: Good Point. Quality wins is 20% which I believe Davis should have another advantage Expand Yep. Either way that’s your 1 and 2 seeds. No one else has a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 12:27 AM, Le duke said: I’m sure @jajensen will be along to make the case for Smith over Davis based on head to head, plus Husker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Shit I'd love Smith to be last seed and wrestle Davis first round. We all know davis isn't winning 125 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted March 11, 2024 Author Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 3:00 AM, jajensen09 said: Shit I'd love Smith to be last seed and wrestle Davis first round. We all know davis isn't winning 125 Expand Perhaps, but he still should be ranked #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 3:00 AM, jajensen09 said: Shit I'd love Smith to be last seed and wrestle Davis first round. We all know davis isn't winning 125 Expand Teched by Barnett, a TECH FALL, shortly after you declared Davis part of a “very average” group that just went 1, 3, 2, 3 at the Big Ten Tournament. You’re the worst poster in the history of these forums, at least Cinnabun was trolling. You actually believe the crap that you type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 3:12 AM, MLB9 said: Teched by Barnett, a TECH FALL, shortly after you declared Davis part of a “very average” group that just went 1, 3, 2, 3 at the Big Ten Tournament. You’re the worst poster in the history of these forums, at least Cinnabun was trolling. You actually believe the crap that you type. Expand If you don't see this year 125 is all about matchups, then I can tell you aren't paying attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 3:33 AM, jajensen09 said: If you don't see this year 125 is all about matchups, then I can tell you aren't paying attention Expand Ok. The totality of season matchups will determine one guy is a #1 or 2 seed(likely) and the other guy is, I don’t know, a 12 to 15? Maybe worse? One is definitely better at matchups, which seem fairly important here, and it’s not the one you’re pedestaling. But that’s not the worst of your commentary. The “very average” group of four PSU wrestlers just outscored the mighty big Husker four 66.5 to 54 this weekend. And history tells us one of those groups gets even better ~two weeks later and one doesn’t. Are you ready to retract anything yet? Just say you were speaking on emotion and frustration and I won’t bring it up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 4:29 AM, MLB9 said: Ok. The totality of season matchups will determine one guy is a #1 or 2 seed(likely) and the other guy is, I don’t know, a 12 to 15? Maybe worse? One is definitely better at matchups, which seem fairly important here, and it’s not the one you’re pedestaling. But that’s not the worst of your commentary. The “very average” group of four PSU wrestlers just outscored the mighty big Husker four 66.5 to 54 this weekend. And history tells us one of those groups gets even better ~two weeks later and one doesn’t. Are you ready to retract anything yet? Just say you were speaking on emotion and frustration and I won’t bring it up again. Expand Matchups 100% a thing, better hope your boy Davis doesn't get a bad matchup.. and please let me hear how good beau stall barlett is. 149-down is above average is that better? Don't forget Carter ran away... and well, frankly, Kirk says none of this matters anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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