lu_alum Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 17 hours ago, BloodRound said: Love both - anyone got anyone older examples though? I am looking to hear about some older stories. Pat Santoro: 1x PIAA state qualifier (placed 3rd); 4x NCAA AA & 2x champ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Stephen Neal placed 4th in California before becoming a 4x AA, 2 x NCAA champ plus World freestyle champ. And an outstanding NFL career. Bruce Bumgartner placed 3rd in NJ before making 3 NCAA finals, winning it as a senior. Plus arguably the greatest freestyle career of any US wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Great Topic: I can only leave two names b/c I am at work and this would take up too much of my time. But here is my start. 1998: Kurt Angle: 285 (undersized) Clarion U. Did not go to a 'big name school' b/c he wanted to wrestle for Coach Bubb and play football. You know the rest of his story. 2009: Ryan Williams: 141 lbs. Old Dominion U. runner up; 137 career wins. How about another Clarion wrestler, the great Wade Schalles. Most would not expect to see his name appear in a thread like this one, but did he even participate at the PIAA Championships in 1968? I know he pinned the returning Champ Chatman in the finals in 1969 and probably could have wrestled anywhere, but could the same be said the year before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugarles Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, MPhillips said: Agreed. It was a surprise, but it probably shouldn't have been. He was on a tear. RS year, Junior Worlds, then the NCAA tourney... Vincenzo Joseph was the 2x defending champ and ML took a couple of first semester losses, so i think he was reasonably considered a year away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, ugarles said: so i think he was reasonably considered a year away. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 hours ago, 11986 said: Stephen Neal placed 4th in California before becoming a 4x AA, 2 x NCAA champ plus World freestyle champ. And an outstanding NFL career. Bruce Bumgartner placed 3rd in NJ before making 3 NCAA finals, winning it as a senior. Plus arguably the greatest freestyle career of any US wrestler. Bruce had a bowl cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 3/5/2024 at 8:57 AM, Pinnacle said: How about another Clarion wrestler, the great Wade Schalles. Most would not expect to see his name appear in a thread like this one, but did he even participate at the PIAA Championships in 1968? I know he pinned the returning Champ Chatman in the finals in 1969 and probably could have wrestled anywhere, but could the same be said the year before? I totally agree... I was gonna add him but was in a hurry. That match was I think his junior year? Here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Keith Gavin-1 time PIAA qualifier. Not sure if he ever placed in high shool, but two time NCAA Finalist. One time Champ! Edited March 6 by KLCarnegieTech_1969 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 50 minutes ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Keith Gavin-1 time PIAA qualifier. Not sure if he ever placed in high shool, but two time NCAA Finalist. One time Champ! And I had thought of Keith but did not put his name down. So glad you added him. My take on Schalles is that he became a whole different wrestler when he realized he could pin anyone Edited March 6 by Pinnacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: And I had thought of Keith but did not put his name down. So glad you added him. My take on Schalles is that he became a whole different wrestler when he realized he could pin anyone Thank your for acknowledging this. There are similarities between Bo Nickal and Schalles. Either could pin anybody, anywhere and anytime. X marks the spot! I'm adding them as I think of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Thank your for acknowledging this. There are similarities between Bo Nickal and Schalles. Either could pin anybody, anywhere and anytime. X marks the spot! I'm adding them as I think of them. The one thing missing in that old PIAA video tape is Tim Johnson wailing "Oh, he's got the chin"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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