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  On 3/7/2024 at 7:46 PM, ugarles said:

Does Starocci get a bye with the 1 seed (in a 14 team tournament) or are the byes randomly assigned? Lucky dog if you're a 14-seed getting a default and finding yourself a win away on top or bottom from one of 8 bids.

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Yes, #1 and #2 get the byes

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  On 3/7/2024 at 7:46 PM, ugarles said:

Does Starocci get a bye with the 1 seed (in a 14 team tournament) or are the byes randomly assigned? Lucky dog if you're a 14-seed getting a default and finding yourself a win away on top or bottom from one of 8 bids.

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One more thing I failed to mention. The #1 gets the #8/#9 winner in round 2, so whoever wins there gets a huge benefit if #1 injury defaults. And then the loser of #7/#10 (I believe) gets the #1 on the cosol side. 

So I think it is 7-10 that would benefit from a Starocci double default.

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  On 3/7/2024 at 9:08 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

One more thing I failed to mention. The #1 gets the #8/#9 winner in round 2, so whoever wins there gets a huge benefit if #1 injury defaults. And then the loser of #7/#10 (I believe) gets the #1 on the cosol side. 

So I think it is 7-10 that would benefit from a Starocci double default.

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Wait a minute ... didn't you say no medical defaults but now we've got double defaults.  Thought we now only have MF & ID.  Speaking of injury defaults does he actually have to call injury time thus allowing his opponent to choose bottom?  Does the trainer need to check him out after calling i time or we gonna just trust Cael on this? 

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  On 3/7/2024 at 10:16 PM, ionel said:

Wait a minute ... didn't you say no medical defaults but now we've got double defaults.  Thought we now only have MF & ID.  Speaking of injury defaults does he actually have to call injury time thus allowing his opponent to choose bottom?  Does the trainer need to check him out after calling i time or we gonna just trust Cael on this? 

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  On 3/7/2024 at 10:16 PM, ionel said:

Wait a minute ... didn't you say no medical defaults but now we've got double defaults.  Thought we now only have MF & ID.  Speaking of injury defaults does he actually have to call injury time thus allowing his opponent to choose bottom?  Does the trainer need to check him out after calling i time or we gonna just trust Cael on this? 

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a double default is two :01 injury defaults; one in the main bracket and the consolation. no forfeits. i don't think this should be allowed but it's not my call and my recollection that it would be disallowed has been shot down.

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  On 3/7/2024 at 11:54 PM, ugarles said:

a double default is two :01 injury defaults; one in the main bracket and the consolation. no forfeits. i don't think this should be allowed but it's not my call and my recollection that it would be disallowed has been shot down.

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I'm pretty sure its not in the rule book, Wkn is a sticker for rules & details.  Let's hope Wkn convinces Carl not to try it.  

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  On 3/7/2024 at 11:56 PM, ionel said:

I'm pretty sure its not in the rule book, Wkn is a sticker for rules & details.  Let's hope Wkn convinces Carl not to try it.  

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Actually doesn’t the rule now say there needs to be “actual wrestling” before injury defaulting?   I don’t see that being enforced however, although I saw that a few injury defaults were 2 seconds instead of 1.

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  On 3/10/2024 at 11:06 AM, 1032004 said:

Actually doesn’t the rule now say there needs to be “actual wrestling” before injury defaulting?   I don’t see that being enforced however, although I saw that a few injury defaults were 2 seconds instead of 1.

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I was on the NCAA zoom last week and this came up. The wording is you must participate. Technically defaults would suffice but what was brought up was that that doesn't mean the committee has to select you. They might well deem that you were showing that you weren't healthy enough to wrestle.

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  On 3/10/2024 at 11:27 AM, gimpeltf said:

I was on the NCAA zoom last week and this came up. The wording is you must participate. Technically defaults would suffice but what was brought up was that that doesn't mean the committee has to select you. They might well deem that you were showing that you weren't healthy enough to wrestle.

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Thanks.  Courtesy of an old thread, here was the official wording

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/Apr2022D1MWR_AnnualReport.pdf

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  On 3/10/2024 at 11:27 AM, gimpeltf said:

I was on the NCAA zoom last week and this came up. The wording is you must participate. Technically defaults would suffice but what was brought up was that that doesn't mean the committee has to select you. They might well deem that you were showing that you weren't healthy enough to wrestle.

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