steamboat_charlie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: All @jajensen09 needs is to be right. Using his PSU and Nebraska scenarios above, Neb scores about 95 plus bonus while PSU gets about 78 plus bonus. Ohhhh. You know I hadn't really been paying attention to usernames. I get it now. JaJensen is a Jimmy alt account. This makes a lot more sense now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 28 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: Ohhhh. You know I hadn't really been paying attention to usernames. I get it now. JaJensen is a Jimmy alt account. This makes a lot more sense now. Nah, @jajensen09 is legit. He is just aaaaaaaaaallllllllllll the way in on his Huskers. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingest2010 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, jajensen09 said: Yeah but there hasn't been an injury like this for a while and they did look beatable against nebraska Extrapolating a tournament off a dual, tale as old as time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, wrestlingest2010 said: Extrapolating a tournament off a dual, tale as old as time I just don't think Psu has as deep of a lineup as they think they have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 23 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: I just don't think Psu has as deep of a lineup as they think they have If they win without two guys who would otherwise be #1 seeds would you insanely not call that a deep line up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 38 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: I just don't think Psu has as deep of a lineup as they think they have Yeah, if they all drastically perform under expectation and suffer multiple injuries to probable champs they MIGHT take 2nd place? They’re either “deep”(very good) or everyone else is ridiculously bad. Which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 41 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: I just don't think Psu has as deep of a lineup as they think they have which reminds me... Caleb Smith now has a 2.9% chance of making the final. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 30 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: If they win without two guys who would otherwise be #1 seeds would you insanely not call that a deep line up? Van Ness is not a #1 ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 13 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: which reminds me... Caleb Smith now has a 2.9% chance of making the final. I'll take them odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Van Ness is not a #1 ... He was before the injury. Then gets replaced by a true freshman wrestling up a weight now ranked in the top 10. You're a year too early on the PSU is going to collapse at NCAA's. Next year there are plenty of avenues for other teams to take the crown Edited February 28 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: He was before the injury. Then gets replaced by a true freshman wrestling up a weight now ranked in the top 10. You're a year too early on the PSU is going to collapse at NCAA's. Next year there are plenty of avenues for other teams to take the crown yeah but its barely even "hate" if you wait around for the right time... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Team that can beat penn state if they all get blessed by god the night before NCAA's and everything that could go wrong for psu does NC state Camacho stays in form wins 125 Orine draws in opposite side of fix and vito is not healthy/is cutting for trials already makes finals ryan jack reaches back on beau in the quarters like he did eierman but gets the fall call and then proceeds to beat whoever the 4 seed is makes the finals but loses because lightning cannot possibly strike 3 times Jackson arrington gets the first takedown on ridge then chooses neutral and proceeds to circle but gets 2 stall calls on ridge for getting himself pushed out. Goes on to stun henson in the finals. Ed scott throws people and gets a lot of pins AA's I got nothing at 165 Nc state says f it and pulls singletons red shirt for confrences and he shows why he beat gabe arnold in 2 matches at u20's takes out a hobbled carter in the semis and avenges his ACC finals loss to mehki (in this hypothetical he loses to mehki at acc's) Fishback steals all of tj stewarts speed like its space jam and AA's Trent beats Aaron in the finals (the most realistic prediction on here imo) and celebrates by punching himself with one hand and holding a hoagie with the other trephan AA's 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Hammerlock3 said: yeah but its barely even "hate" if you wait around for the right time... Good point. I think I'm wrong about the SVN ranking. I don't think he ever jumped Lovett in the rankings. And now come to think of it it's hard to see them not winning it next year. They only lose 2 (AB & Carter) & SVN returns which will be an upgrade at 149. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: He was before the injury. Then gets replaced by a true freshman wrestling up a weight now ranked in the top 10. You're a year too early on the PSU is going to collapse at NCAA's. Next year there are plenty of avenues for other teams to take the crown Edited February 28 by jajensen09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: Team that can beat penn state if they all get blessed by god the night before NCAA's and everything that could go wrong for psu does NC state Camacho stays in form wins 125 Orine draws in opposite side of fix and vito is not healthy/is cutting for trials already makes finals ryan jack reaches back on beau in the quarters like he did eierman but gets the fall call and then proceeds to beat whoever the 4 seed is makes the finals but loses because lightning cannot possibly strike 3 times Jackson arrington gets the first takedown on ridge then chooses neutral and proceeds to circle but gets 2 stall calls on ridge for getting himself pushed out. Goes on to stun henson in the finals. Ed scott throws people and gets a lot of pins AA's I got nothing at 165 Nc state says f it and pulls singletons red shirt for confrences and he shows why he beat gabe arnold in 2 matches at u20's takes out a hobbled carter in the semis and avenges his ACC finals loss to mehki (in this hypothetical he loses to mehki at acc's) Fishback steals all of tj stewarts speed like its space jam and AA's Trent beats Aaron in the finals (the most realistic prediction on here imo) and celebrates by punching himself with one hand and holding a hoagie with the other trephan AA's The pack has a real good shot a team trophy. It pained me to say it as a VT fan but it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Good point. I think I'm wrong about the SVN ranking. I don't think he ever jumped Lovett in the rankings. And now come to think of it it's hard to see them not winning it next year. They only lose 2 (AB & Carter) & SVN returns which will be an upgrade at 149. isn't truax gone? 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: isn't truax gone? Oh yeah, but I honestly forget he's even on the team until someone reminds me I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingest2010 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, jajensen09 said: I just don't think Psu has as deep of a lineup as they think they have I see this kind of post basically every year, since not everyone looks their best all year. History shows Cael has peaking down to a science rather than it's some continued act of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Hope SVN can stay healthy seems like hes had the injury bug dating back to HS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) On 2/27/2024 at 10:17 AM, Hammerlock3 said: yeah but now you have to put a team next to them. Which team other team has the best shot at multiple champs? IMO, in order, and who I think has a non-negligible chance to win. (Edit: I guess I’m still assuming Starocci wins, for the purpose of this exercise are we assuming he’s out? That’s really the only chance another team would have of winning, and of course quite a few of the teams below would still have no chance, but it was fun to see who I thought could have a shot at 2 champs) Cornell: Vito, Shapiro, maybe throw in Foca Nebraska: Lovett, Robb, Smith, Pinto OK State: Fix, Plott, Spratley Lehigh: Crookham, Stanich, maybe throw in Beard Arizona State: Parco, Figueroa, Teemer Iowa State: Carr, Bastida, maybe throw in Echemendia, Chittum, and Swiderski Missouri: O’Toole, Surtin, Mauller if he doesn’t wrestle Shapiro Michigan: DeAugustino, Gomez, Ragusin, Lewan (please God I hope Lewan doesn’t make the finals but he could), maybe throw in Lemley Iowa: Woods, Ayala Minnesota: Blockhus, McKee, Salazar NC State: Camacho, Jack, Arrington, Hidlay, Scott Virginia Tech: Henson, Flynn Oregon State: Munoz, Kaylor Stanford: Cardenas, Provo Lock Haven: Noto, Henson Edited February 29 by 1032004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 15 hours ago, jajensen09 said: Van Ness is not a #1 ... Starocci won't be #1 either if he can't wrestle. Van Ness situation would be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, 1032004 said: IMO, in order, and who I think has a non-negligible chance to win. (Edit: I guess I’m still assuming Starocci wins, for the purpose of this exercise are we assuming he’s out? That’s really the only chance another team would have of winning, and of course quite a few of the teams below would still have no chance, but it was fun to see who I thought could have a shot at 2 champs) Cornell: Vito, Shapiro, maybe throw in Foca I think Ramirez has a better shot than does Foca. Ramirez has career wins over two NCAA champions (Griffith, Carr), including Carr this year. O'Toole is likely a bridge too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 9 hours ago, 1032004 said: IMO, in order, and who I think has a non-negligible chance to win. (Edit: I guess I’m still assuming Starocci wins, for the purpose of this exercise are we assuming he’s out? That’s really the only chance another team would have of winning, and of course quite a few of the teams below would still have no chance, but it was fun to see who I thought could have a shot at 2 champs) Cornell: Vito, Shapiro, maybe throw in Foca Nebraska: Lovett, Robb, Smith, Pinto OK State: Fix, Plott, Spratley Lehigh: Crookham, Stanich, maybe throw in Beard Arizona State: Parco, Figueroa, Teemer Iowa State: Carr, Bastida, maybe throw in Echemendia, Chittum, and Swiderski Missouri: O’Toole, Surtin, Mauller if he doesn’t wrestle Shapiro Michigan: DeAugustino, Gomez, Ragusin, Lewan (please God I hope Lewan doesn’t make the finals but he could), maybe throw in Lemley Iowa: Woods, Ayala Minnesota: Blockhus, McKee, Salazar NC State: Camacho, Jack, Arrington, Hidlay, Scott Virginia Tech: Henson, Flynn Oregon State: Munoz, Kaylor Stanford: Cardenas, Provo Lock Haven: Noto, Henson I'd put Smith in for nebraska at 125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 hours ago, BigRedFan said: I think Ramirez has a better shot than does Foca. Ramirez has career wins over two NCAA champions (Griffith, Carr), including Carr this year. O'Toole is likely a bridge too far. Good point. 56 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: I'd put Smith in for nebraska at 125. I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 19 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Good point. I did And hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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