Pinnacle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 The only thing missing from recent threads is the actual prediction of a team other than PSU winning the NCAA championship. Someone is going to make the call. But who will it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: The only thing missing from recent threads is the actual prediction of a team other than PSU winning the NCAA championship. Someone is going to make the call. But who will it be? Its already been explained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: The only thing missing from recent threads is the actual prediction of a team other than PSU winning the NCAA championship. Someone is going to make the call. But who will it be? Nebraska takes it all on the strength of title runs by hardy and pinto! 1 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: Nebraska takes it all on the strength of title runs by hardy and pinto! kid's on fire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, ionel said: kid's on fire looks fearless, kind of inspiring actually 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, BloodRound said: Does Penn State lose it once again? They should still win it but if Carter doesn't score things could get interesting Edited February 28 by Corby 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingest2010 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Every year there are these discussions but history says PSU doesn't underachieve like that at NCAAs generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 12 hours ago, wrestlingest2010 said: Every year there are these discussions but history says PSU doesn't underachieve like that at NCAAs generally. Yeah but there hasn't been an injury like this for a while and they did look beatable against nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 23 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Yeah but there hasn't been an injury like this for a while and they did look beatable against nebraska 2018 is not that long ago. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 26 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Yeah but there hasn't been an injury like this for a while and they did look beatable against nebraska Are you the guy? You calling Nebraska to beat PSU at Bigs or NCAAs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 23 hours ago, jajensen09 said: Now this is not my prediction! But this could happen. There is a reason we wrestle and not just hand the crown over before it happens. 125 -Davis No AA 133 Nago No AA 141 beau 7th 149 No AA 157 Shiperio beats Levi in quarters. Levi AA 165 Mitchell AA 174 Starocci injury is pretty bad (hope this isn't case) 184 low AA 7th 197 highly unlikely Brooks takes an L champ here Heavyweight Batistida or Schultz beats Kirk. Kirk 3rd. This would tighten up the race. Not likely, but these things could happen.... The scenario you outlined is basically worst case for PSU. Even in this scenario, they score between 90 and 100 points. The only team that can conceivably beat that is Cornell, and to do so they absolutely must have 2 champs (not unlikely), but they're also going to need AA finishes from at least 2 of Ungar, Cornella, Fernandez, or Fernandes. So sure, the margin of error without Starocci is smaller, but it's still significant and larger than it's been in years' past (when PSU always outperformed their expected point totals anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 34 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: The scenario you outlined is basically worst case for PSU. Even in this scenario, they score between 90 and 100 points. The only team that can conceivably beat that is Cornell, and to do so they absolutely must have 2 champs (not unlikely), but they're also going to need AA finishes from at least 2 of Ungar, Cornella, Fernandez, or Fernandes. So sure, the margin of error without Starocci is smaller, but it's still significant and larger than it's been in years' past (when PSU always outperformed their expected point totals anyway). Nebraska has a much better chance than cornell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 35 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Are you the guy? You calling Nebraska to beat PSU at Bigs or NCAAs? No I am not calling for it. Just saying there is a reason we wrestle these things out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Nebraska has a much better chance than cornell... They are a push Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: No I am not calling for it. Just saying there is a reason we wrestle these things out Correct. How else are we going to know the final team score margin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajensen09 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 54 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: The scenario you outlined is basically worst case for PSU. Even in this scenario, they score between 90 and 100 points. The only team that can conceivably beat that is Cornell, and to do so they absolutely must have 2 champs (not unlikely), but they're also going to need AA finishes from at least 2 of Ungar, Cornella, Fernandez, or Fernandes. So sure, the margin of error without Starocci is smaller, but it's still significant and larger than it's been in years' past (when PSU always outperformed their expected point totals anyway). At one point of the year you could say PSU had a high high probability at 4 champs. Now I'd say the over under is 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 35 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: At one point of the year you could say PSU had a high high probability at 4 champs. Now I'd say the over under is 1.5. I will take the over Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 37 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: At one point of the year you could say PSU had a high high probability at 4 champs. Now I'd say the over under is 1.5. I would take the over on this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, jajensen09 said: No I am not calling for it. Just saying there is a reason we wrestle these things out OK, so it will probably be Connobon that becomes that guy unless someone wants to beat him to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 43 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: At one point of the year you could say PSU had a high high probability at 4 champs. Now I'd say the over under is 1.5. Over ... and whats the limit, can I bet the farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, jajensen09 said: Nebraska has a much better chance than cornell... Nebraska? Zero chance. They'll be lucky to get 1 champ, and 1 champ is not going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: Nebraska? Zero chance. They'll be lucky to get 1 champ, and 1 champ is not going to cut it. The University of Minnesota would like a word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, ionel said: The University of Minnesota would like a word. The exception that proves the rule. Regardless, Nebraska has at best 8 AA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: The exception that proves the rule. Regardless, Nebraska has at best 8 AA's. All @jajensen09 needs is to be right. Using his PSU and Nebraska scenarios above, Neb scores about 95 plus bonus while PSU gets about 78 plus bonus. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, jajensen09 said: At one point of the year you could say PSU had a high high probability at 4 champs. Now I'd say the over under is 1.5. These are terrible odds. PSU has 5 guys ranked #1. Lets say Starocci has to forfeit out you'd still set the over under at 2.5 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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