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Updated with pre-seeds.

EIWA Interactive Brackets

Interactive Brackets: use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall).

125 lbs. (5 qualifiers)
#1 Luke Stanich (LEH) (15-3, 2-0 EIWA): 3 CR, 12 RPI, 5 WS
#2 Brett Ungar (COR) (15-6, 7-1 EIWA): 15 CR, 4 RPI, 20 WS
#3 Diego Sotelo (HAR) (21-7, 5-3 EIWA): 24 CR, 13 RPI, 25 WS
#4 Jack Maida (AMER) (13-2, 1-1 EIWA): 28 CR, 19 RPI, 31 WS
#5 Ethan Bergnic (ARMY) (20-8, 4-1 EIWA): 31 CR, 18 RPI, 32 WS
#6 Nick Babin (COL) (15-12, 5-3 EIWA): 30 RPI, 22 WS
#7 Max Gallagher (PENN) (16-6, 3-3 EIWA): 27 RPI, 28 WS
#8 Drew Heethuis (PRIN) (15-10, 5-3 EIWA): 49 WS
#9 Desmond Pleasant (DREX) (19-14, 5-3 EIWA): 50 WS
#10 Jake Ice (SH) (7-5, 1-2 EIWA): 63 WS
#11 Michael Joyce (BRWN) (4-5, 2-4 EIWA): 54 WS
#12 Carson Wagner (BING) (17-15, 5-7 EIWA): 55 WS
#13 Dylan Acevedo (HOF) (7-14, 2-2 EIWA): 64 WS
#14 Robbie Sagaris (LIU) (11-12, 2-6 EIWA): 56 WS
#15 Dayton DelViscio (NAVY) (8-12, 0-4 EIWA): 65 WS
#16 Eric Howe (F&M) (7-15, 0-4 EIWA): 69 WS
#17 Grayson McLellan (BUCK) (0-12, 0-2 EIWA): 77 WS

133 lbs. (5 qualifiers)
#1 Ryan Crookham (LEH) (15-0, 4-0 EIWA): 1 CR, 3 WS
#2 Vito Arujau (COR) (10-1, 6-1 EIWA): 3 CR, 1 WS
#3 Michael Colaiocco (PENN) (15-8, 5-4 EIWA): 12 CR, 14 RPI, 13 WS
#4 Kurt Phipps (BUCK) (22-3, 3-1 EIWA): 16 CR, 20 RPI, 25 WS
#5 Mason Leiphart (F&M) (22-9, 6-5 EIWA): 29 CR, 23 RPI, 19 WS
#6 Braden Basile (ARMY) (19-11, 2-1 EIWA): 30 CR, 17 RPI, 38 WS
#7 Brendan Ferretti (NAVY) (10-9, 2-4 EIWA): 33 CR, 30 RPI, 34 WS
#8 Angelo Rini (COL) (8-3, 0-0 EIWA): 29 WS
#9 Micah Roes (BING) (22-9, 6-3 EIWA): 24 RPI, 37 WS
#10 John Hildebrandt (DREX) (12-10, 4-3 EIWA): 50 WS
#11 Max Leete (AMER) (14-9, 0-2 EIWA): 54 WS
#12 Andrew Fallon (SH) (14-3, 2-1 EIWA): 47 WS
#13 Dylan Ryder (HOF) (12-10, 0-3 EIWA): 55 WS
#14 Coleman Nogle (HAR) (17-15, 3-8 EIWA): 42 WS
#15 Sean Pierson (PRIN) (14-12, 3-3 EIWA): 36 WS
#16 Hunter Adrian (BRWN) (12-13, 1-5 EIWA): 59 WS
#17 Kaelen Francois (LIU) (2-11, 0-3 EIWA): 72 WS

141 lbs. (4 qualifiers)
#1 Josh Koderhandt (NAVY) (18-6, 6-1 EIWA): 13 CR, 8 RPI, 4 WS
#2 Vince Cornella (COR) (13-7, 4-0 EIWA): 12 CR, 13 RPI, 14 WS
#3 Malyke Hines (LEH) (15-5, 8-2 EIWA): 17 CR, 5 RPI, 19 WS
#4 CJ Composto (PENN) (17-7, 4-2 EIWA): 18 CR, 25 RPI, 25 WS
#5 Kai Owen (COL) (14-9, 1-3 EIWA): 32 CR, 31 RPI, 30 WS
#6 Devin Matthews (LIU) (16-10, 5-1 EIWA): 54 WS
#7 Dylan Chappell (BUCK) (18-8, 3-2 EIWA): 39 WS
#8 Pat Phillips (F&M) (21-10, 7-1 EIWA): 34 WS
#9 Jordan Soriano (DREX) (18-8, 4-2 EIWA): 52 WS
#10 Logan Brown (ARMY) (20-11, 2-4 EIWA): 47 WS
#11 Nathan Lucier (BING) (14-11, 2-5 EIWA): 58 WS
#12 Tyler Vazquez (PRIN) (10-13, 1-7 EIWA): 49 WS
#13 Michael Jaffe (HAR) (5-5, 2-2 EIWA): 43 WS
#14 Ian Oswalt (BRWN) (11-16, 1-8 EIWA): 57 WS
#15 Raymond Lopez (AMER) (6-4, 0-1 EIWA): 73 WS
#16 Vincent Milazzo (SH) (10-16, 0-4 EIWA): 68 WS
#17 Alex Turley (HOF) (7-18, 0-5 EIWA): 70 WS

149 lbs. (4 qualifiers)
#1 Ethan Fernandez (COR) (19-7, 7-0 EIWA): 21 CR, 9 RPI, 16 WS
#2 Matthew Williams (ARMY) (23-7, 5-2 EIWA): 11 RPI, 37 WS
#3 Kelvin Griffin (LEH) (22-11, 5-3 EIWA): 8 RPI, 18 WS
#4 Jude Swisher (PENN) (21-6, 3-1 EIWA): 28 CR, 9 WS
#5 Eligh Rivera (PRIN) (14-10, 3-4 EIWA): 31 CR, 31 RPI, 26 WS
#6 Jack Crook (HAR) (13-7, 4-3 EIWA): 30 RPI, 39 WS
#7 Kaemen Smith (NAVY) (22-11, 1-1 EIWA): 36 WS
#8 Noah Tapia (HOF) (20-13, 2-2 EIWA): 47 WS
#9 Dominic Findora (DREX) (21-10, 4-0 EIWA): 38 WS
#10 Drew Witham (LIU) (11-15, 4-3 EIWA): 63 WS
#11 Jack Nies (AMER) (6-6, 0-2 EIWA): 58 WS
#12 Richard Fedalen (COL) (6-13, 2-4 EIWA): 57 WS
#13 Michael Zarif (BING) (8-11, 1-3 EIWA): 68 WS
#14 Josh Hillard (F&M) (12-16, 1-4 EIWA): 61 WS
#15 Mike McGhee (SH) (4-9, 0-5 EIWA): 76 WS
#16 Sam McMonagle (BRWN) (2-9, 1-6 EIWA): 71 WS
#17 Braden Bower (BUCK) (13-7, 3-3 EIWA): 39 WS

157 lbs. (3 qualifiers)
#1 Meyer Shapiro (COR) (19-2, 6-0 EIWA): 6 CR, 1 RPI, 1 WS
#2 Lucas Revano (PENN) (19-8, 5-2 EIWA): 25 CR, 15 RPI, 21 WS
#3 Max Brignola (LEH) (17-6, 4-2 EIWA): 20 CR, 10 RPI, 25 WS
#4 Nathan Lukez (ARMY) (23-9, 4-1 EIWA): 28 RPI, 29 WS
#5 Blake Saito (BRWN) (19-10, 6-2 EIWA): 33 RPI, 36 WS
#6 Jurius Clark (HOF) (12-7, 1-2 EIWA): 60 WS
#7 Jimmy Harrington (HAR) (10-9, 2-5 EIWA): 53 WS
#8 Jonathan Ley (NAVY) (8-9, 2-2 EIWA): 50 WS
#9 Riley Bower (BUCK) (11-12, 0-2 EIWA): 62 WS
#10 Rocco Camillaci (PRIN) (13-14, 4-5 EIWA): 57 WS
#11 Tyler Williams (DREX) (12-16, 4-4 EIWA): 56 WS
#12 Jaden Le (COL) (9-10, 1-1 EIWA): 49 WS
#13 Carter Baer (BING) (14-15, 1-6 EIWA): 61 WS
#14 Rhise Royster (LIU) (12-14, 3-3 EIWA): 62 WS
#15 Devon Capato (AMER) (4-9, 0-0 EIWA): 66 WS
#16 Dominic Wheatley (F&M) (4-13, 1-3 EIWA): 73 WS
#17 Connor MacDonald (SH) (5-8, 0-4 EIWA): 76 WS

165 lbs. (5 qualifiers)
#1 Julian Ramirez (COR) (18-2, 4-0 EIWA): 3 CR, 7 RPI, 4 WS
#2 Brevin Cassella (BING) (24-6, 7-1 EIWA): 15 CR, 14 RPI, 17 WS
#3 Andrew Cerniglia (NAVY) (19-4, 5-1 EIWA): 17 CR, 25 RPI, 15 WS
#4 Noah Mulvaney (BUCK) (25-4, 5-1 EIWA): 19 CR, 15 RPI, 20 WS
#5 Gunner Filipowicz (ARMY) (21-7, 3-2 EIWA): 21 CR, 8 RPI, 19 WS
#6 Cody Walsh (DREX) (23-9, 4-2 EIWA): 33 CR, 31 RPI, 37 WS
#7 Jake Logan (LEH) (8-9, 2-4 EIWA): 31 CR, 19 RPI, 38 WS
#8 Joshua Kim (HAR) (13-7, 3-4 EIWA): 40 WS
#9 Kyle Mosher (COL) (10-9, 2-2 EIWA): 28 WS
#10 Jake Slotnick (HOF) (10-10, 2-2 EIWA): 63 WS
#11 James Johnston (LIU) (10-15, 3-2 EIWA): 67 WS
#12 Kaya Sement (PENN) (13-12, 1-5 EIWA): 42 WS
#13 Blaine Bergey (PRIN) (12-12, 2-6 EIWA): 50 WS
#14 Josh Palmucci (F&M) (12-16, 1-3 EIWA): 72 WS
#15 Keegan Rothrock (BRWN) (6-13, 2-5 EIWA): 59 WS
#16 Calvin Pineda (SH) (7-15, 0-3 EIWA): 77 WS
#17 Breon Phifer (AMER) (0-17, 0-3 EIWA): 75 WS

174 lbs. (6 qualifiers)
#1 Phillip Conigliaro (HAR) (20-1, 6-0 EIWA): 5 CR, 4 RPI, 8 WS
#2 Nick Incontrera (PENN) (21-3, 5-1 EIWA): 7 CR, 3 RPI, 6 WS
#3 Lennox Wilcox (COL) (11-5, 5-2 EIWA): 14 CR, 13 RPI, 13 WS
#4 Ben Pasiuk (ARMY) (17-4, 6-1 EIWA): 12 CR, 23 RPI, 11 WS
#5 Danny Wask (NAVY) (20-9, 6-1 EIWA): 26 CR, 10 RPI, 18 WS
#6 Noah Fox (F&M) (25-8, 5-0 EIWA): 26 RPI, 36 WS
#7 Myles Takats (BUCK) (21-11, 5-3 EIWA): 30 RPI, 32 WS
#8 Benny Baker (COR) (15-11, 1-3 EIWA): 32 RPI, 40 WS
#9 Jack Janda (DREX) (16-11, 3-6 EIWA): 53 WS
#10 Ross McFarland (HOF) (12-6, 2-3 EIWA): 42 WS
#11 Dimitri Gamkrelidze (BING) (16-12, 3-6 EIWA): 46 WS
#12 Jonathan Conrad (BRWN) (13-13, 1-4 EIWA): 57 WS
#13 Lucas White (AMER) (11-12, 0-5 EIWA): 61 WS
#14 Mikey Squires (PRIN) (10-12, 0-5 EIWA): 65 WS
#15 Connor Herceg (LEH) (7-6, 2-4 EIWA): 52 WS
#16 Corey Connolly (LIU) (8-12, 1-4 EIWA): 55 WS
#17 Owen Ayotte (SH) (1-13, 0-3 EIWA): 76 WS

184 lbs. (7 qualifiers)
#1 Chris Foca (COR) (17-4, 6-2 EIWA): 7 CR, 10 RPI, 4 WS
#2 James Conway (F&M) (26-7, 6-3 EIWA): 23 CR, 18 RPI, 28 WS
#3 Nate Dugan (PRIN) (19-6, 7-2 EIWA): 21 CR, 13 RPI, 19 WS
#4 Max Hale (PENN) (19-5, 4-4 EIWA): 19 CR, 15 RPI, 21 WS
#5 Aaron Ayzerov (COL) (15-9, 3-2 EIWA): 20 CR, 14 RPI, 9 WS
#6 Jacob Nolan (BING) (20-4, 6-1 EIWA): 13 CR, 20 RPI, 22 WS
#7 Michael Bartusch (BUCK) (20-9, 3-4 EIWA): 29 RPI, 41 WS
#8 David Key (NAVY) (13-10, 4-1 EIWA): 31 WS
#9 Jack Wilt (LEH) (12-11, 1-7 EIWA): 33 RPI, 46 WS
#10 Anthony D'Alesio (LIU) (16-11, 5-4 EIWA): 32 WS
#11 Leonardo Tarantino (HAR) (9-8, 1-4 EIWA): 51 WS
#12 Connor Bourne (AMER) (8-9, 0-2 EIWA): 62 WS
#13 Will Conlon (HOF) (8-14, 1-6 EIWA): 64 WS
#14 Hunter Perez (SH) (4-7, 0-3 EIWA): 67 WS
#15 Justin Griffith (DREX) (5-13, 2-4 EIWA): 67 WS
#16 Dalton Harkins (ARMY) (20-6, 0-0 EIWA): 69 WS
#17 Harrison Trahan (BRWN) (0-0, 0-0 EIWA): 62 WS

197 lbs. (6 qualifiers)
#1 Michael Beard (LEH) (22-1, 8-0 EIWA): 3 CR, 3 RPI, 3 WS
#2 Jacob Cardenas (COR) (19-5, 4-2 EIWA): 8 CR, 2 RPI, 7 WS
#3 Louie DePrez (BING) (19-1, 6-1 EIWA): 7 CR, 5 RPI, 5 WS
#4 Luke Stout (PRIN) (18-5, 3-4 EIWA): 12 CR, 11 RPI, 14 WS
#5 Cole Urbas (PENN) (13-8, 4-3 EIWA): 26 CR, 12 RPI, 28 WS
#6 John Crawford (F&M) (20-9, 5-0 EIWA): 29 CR, 27 RPI, 29 WS
#7 Jack Wehmeyer (COL) (17-9, 5-2 EIWA): 30 CR, 24 RPI, 30 WS
#8 Logan Deacetis (BUCK) (17-11, 5-2 EIWA): 30 RPI, 31 WS
#9 John Dusza (LIU) (13-11, 3-6 EIWA): 46 WS
#10 Wolfgang Frable (ARMY) (13-16, 3-9 EIWA): 48 WS
#11 Ibrahim Ameer (DREX) (12-14, 5-5 EIWA): 51 WS
#12 Cael Crebs (NAVY) (7-8, 2-1 EIWA): 47 WS
#13 Nikolas Miller (HOF) (9-14, 2-3 EIWA): 50 WS
#14 Liam Volk-Klos (AMER) (10-15, 0-5 EIWA): 67 WS
#15 Alex Whitworth (HAR) (4-11, 2-5 EIWA): 63 WS
#16 Jake Trovato (SH) (3-13, 0-6 EIWA): 75 WS
#17 Lear Quinton (BRWN) (2-12, 1-4 EIWA): 74 WS

285 lbs. (8 qualifiers)
#1 Nathan Taylor (LEH) (19-3, 7-0 EIWA): 7 CR, 2 RPI, 7 WS
#2 Cory Day (BING) (22-5, 9-1 EIWA): 14 CR, 10 RPI, 13 WS
#3 Grady Griess (NAVY) (20-8, 4-3 EIWA): 15 CR, 9 RPI, 16 WS
#4 Keaton Kluever (HOF) (13-3, 4-1 EIWA): 19 CR, 27 RPI, 18 WS
#5 Lewis Fernandes (COR) (17-9, 7-3 EIWA): 17 CR, 13 RPI, 14 WS
#6 Lucas Stoddard (ARMY) (21-11, 5-5 EIWA): 24 CR, 19 RPI, 29 WS
#7 Dorian Crosby (BUCK) (20-8, 6-3 EIWA): 25 CR, 21 RPI, 25 WS
#8 Matthew Cover (PRIN) (13-7, 3-6 EIWA): 28 CR, 17 RPI, 32 WS
#9 John Stout (PENN) (13-10, 2-2 EIWA): 33 RPI, 52 WS
#10 William Jarrell (AMER) (16-13, 2-4 EIWA): 35 WS
#11 Aeden Begue (LIU) (12-9, 4-4 EIWA): 65 WS
#12 Alex Semenenko (BRWN) (9-13, 3-6 EIWA): 58 WS
#13 Vincent Mueller (COL) (14-10, 2-2 EIWA): 43 WS
#14 Santino Morina (DREX) (11-14, 2-7 EIWA): 62 WS
#15 Jeff Crooks (HAR) (4-13, 1-5 EIWA): 69 WS
#16 Harrison Shapiro (F&M) (4-14, 0-3 EIWA): 73 WS
#17 Marc Berisha (SH) (1-12, 0-6 EIWA): 75 WS

Team Standings prediction (no bonus)
1. Cornell - 149.5
2. Lehigh - 120
3. Penn - 92.5
t-4. Army - 74
t-4. Navy - 74
6. Binghamton - 52.5
7. Harvard - 51
t-8. Bucknell - 50
t-8. Columbia - 50
10. Franklin & Marshall - 47.5
11. Princeton - 43.5
12. Hofstra - 25
13. American - 14.5
14. Brown - 13
15. Drexel - 12
16. LIU - 11.5
17. Sacred Heart - 4.5

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4 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

This.  Fernandez got the first two takedowns, was in deep about three more times, and gave up a very late takedown.  The ref failed to give Fernandez back points on the first takedown.  Swisher really only had that one TD attempt the whole match, it seemed.

that ref failed to award back points for Swisher as well!

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1 hour ago, BigRedFan said:

The difference is that Fernandez earned them, and Swisher didn't.

i'm still on the fence about that. the rules may say that swisher didn't earn back points based on a technical understanding of when neutral danger or change of control applies but even i thought those were two points in spirit for swisher.

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Is anyone else more than slightly annoyed that DePrez is the #3 seed and Cardenas the #2 Seed?

How?

"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

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3 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Is anyone else more than slightly annoyed that DePrez is the #3 seed and Cardenas the #2 Seed?

How?

i'd guess Cornell Coach did not challenge the preseed and cares little between 2 or 3 seed 

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4 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Is anyone else more than slightly annoyed that DePrez is the #3 seed and Cardenas the #2 Seed?

How?

That is surprising.  What I saw elsewhere is that the EIWA uses a very broad based point system, and so while DePrez does have the head-to-head and CR advantage, Cardenas likely scored higher based on overall resume.  Still it's a head scratcher, but effectively a distinction without a difference.  They should still meet in semis.

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28 minutes ago, Red Blades said:

That is surprising.  What I saw elsewhere is that the EIWA uses a very broad based point system, and so while DePrez does have the head-to-head and CR advantage, Cardenas likely scored higher based on overall resume.  Still it's a head scratcher, but effectively a distinction without a difference.  They should still meet in semis.

But Cardenas gets home-field advantage.

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2 hours ago, Elevator said:

i'd guess Cornell Coach did not challenge the preseed and cares little between 2 or 3 seed 

I get what you're saying, but it's opposite.  DePrez's coaches at Binghamton didn't challenge.  Seems odd.  Appears they got hosed at 184lbs as well.  Nolan's only loss was to Foca, the #1 seed.

51 minutes ago, Red Blades said:

That is surprising.  What I saw elsewhere is that the EIWA uses a very broad based point system, and so while DePrez does have the head-to-head and CR advantage, Cardenas likely scored higher based on overall resume.  Still it's a head scratcher, but effectively a distinction without a difference.  They should still meet in semis.

I don't see how a guy who is 19W-1L with one loss to the 1 seed gets seeded below a 18W-5L guy who lost to the 19W-1L guy and the 1 seed as well as two other guys non-conference.  It is clear as day that it is wrong.

DePrez over Cardenas via DEC 7-3

Stout, Princeton
- DePrez win via MAJ 12-2
- Cardenas win via DEC 4-2

Araneo, Brown
- DePrez win via MAJ 16-2
- DePrez win via MAJ 14-2
- Cardenas win via PIN 4M52S

Whitworth, Harvard
- DePrez win via PIN 2M45S
- Cardenas win via TECH 16-1

Hopkins, Campbell
- DePrez win via TECH 17-2
- Cardenas win VIA MAJ 13-3

Beard, Lehigh
- DePrez loss via MAJ 12-1
- Cardenas loss via DEC 10-3

Are they counting destructo-losses to Hidlay (2x) and Sloan as a good thing?

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1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

I don't see how a guy who is 19W-1L with one loss to the 1 seed gets seeded below a 18W-5L guy who lost to the 19W-1L guy and the 1 seed as well as two other guys non-conference.  It is clear as day that it is wrong.

I'm not disagreeing- but I'm not the person you need to convince!  You gotta take it up with the EIWA Seeding Committee.

In their defense - I think they did a much better job this year than recent past years.  And their job will be much simpler starting next year.

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3 minutes ago, Red Blades said:

I'm not disagreeing- but I'm not the person you need to convince!  You gotta take it up with the EIWA Seeding Committee.

In their defense - I think they did a much better job this year than recent past years.  And their job will be much simpler starting next year.

If they were to come out and say 'Hey.  We used a ratings system that is based purely on metrics.' then I would actually be satisfied... to an extent.

I would have still expected some sort of coach review.  It shouldn't have to just be the Binghamton coach (who should have said WTF with DePrez at 197 AND Nolan at 184) that should have pointed out "Hey... wtf... that is dumb."

Unless all the coaches are clueless as to what is happening within the conference, particularly the #1 ranked/rated school (Cornell).  If that is the case, then I think we aren't asking enough of head coaches.  Seems quite simple.  Keep in mind two from every conference do the coaches ranking, which is part of the AQ and seeding criteria for NCAAs.

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Honestly, looking further in to some of the other weights, it makes me think that they took in to last years results as well.  Either at EIWA, NCAA, or both.

I get that to an extent.  Still a no-brainer oversight.

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7 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Cardenas won that matchup due to a lot of additional quality wins.

Not to mention, these are preseeds and subject to change. If Binghamton wants to press the issue, now is when they would do it, not before the conference applies their formula.

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Just now, ugarles said:

Not to mention, these are preseeds and subject to change. If Binghamton wants to press the issue, now is when they would do it, not before the conference applies their formula.

Nothing to press for there. It's an 8 point differential in Step 1. 5 is the challenge limit.

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1 minute ago, gimpeltf said:

Nothing to press for there. It's an 8 point differential in Step 1. 5 is the challenge limit.

Interesting. Thanks. Not sure it would have mattered. Do the coaches care about the difference betwen Whitworth or Volk-Klos in the first round? Or Crawford/Wehmeyer in the second? Probably not very much.

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21 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

If they were to come out and say 'Hey.  We used a ratings system that is based purely on metrics.' then I would actually be satisfied... to an extent.

I would have still expected some sort of coach review.  It shouldn't have to just be the Binghamton coach (who should have said WTF with DePrez at 197 AND Nolan at 184) that should have pointed out "Hey... wtf... that is dumb."

Unless all the coaches are clueless as to what is happening within the conference, particularly the #1 ranked/rated school (Cornell).  If that is the case, then I think we aren't asking enough of head coaches.  Seems quite simple.  Keep in mind two from every conference do the coaches ranking, which is part of the AQ and seeding criteria for NCAAs.

Another poster on here (and on the Lehigh Forum) has been involved with the EIWA seeding in the past, and has relayed stories of epic seeding arguments - alas, you would think common sense should prevail, but far too often politics and protection of individual interests rules.  As a result, as I understand, the conference went to a strictly metrics-based system, with very limited opportunity for adjustment.  Last year and the year prior, some of the results seemed just nutty.  This year, it appears they made some good corrections.

A big part of the difficulty is that there is such a huge disparity in scheduling throughout the conference, and too little head to head matches - many EIWA teams do not face each other during the dual season - so identifying appropriate and sufficiently universal metrics is hard.

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I think coaches may make strategic decisions about the quarterfinal matchups when deciding whether and how hard to lobby to move from 3 to 2.   Hard to know the particular motivations unless they are expressed.  Might be better use of energy to challenge from 4 to 3 seed.  Coaches have different views on these things.

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1 hour ago, Elevator said:

I think coaches may make strategic decisions about the quarterfinal matchups when deciding whether and how hard to lobby to move from 3 to 2.   Hard to know the particular motivations unless they are expressed.  Might be better use of energy to challenge from 4 to 3 seed.  Coaches have different views on these things.

This was the case wrt Glory and Yianni last year iirc.

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