NM1965 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Bastida reminds me of Anthony Cassar since he's basically a pumped up 197 pounder. He's fast and athletic compared to the fat boys. Kerkvliet isn't a fat boy either, and he's bigger. What do you think of Bastida's chances against Hendricksen and Kerk? I think Bastida might have the best chance at beating Kerkvliet, provided he can get through the fat boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 No and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yes and no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Bastida is wrestling Zach Elam on Sunday, Bastida is 19-0 and Elam is 20-0. Who do you think wins this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 yes and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, NM1965 said: Bastida is wrestling Zach Elam on Sunday, Bastida is 19-0 and Elam is 20-0. Who do you think wins this one? B > D 7-2 E > D 1-0 . . . B > E Edited February 23 by ionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, ionel said: B > D 7-2 E > D 1-0 therfore B > E . no love for the . . ? . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, jmoney said: . no love for the . . ? . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, ionel said: . . . . typo for me haha . . . is the therefore symbol in math proofs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I think Bastida will likely land 5-6. He doesn’t look like he has the weight or horsepower to go that entire tournament without getting surprised by an unobtrusive big guy who knows how to hold position. I think something like a doucet quarterfinal could be a problem for him, even though he handled doucet no problem earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, jmoney said: typo for me haha . . . is the therefore symbol in math proofs hah ... I beat Bob that scoundrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, ionel said: B > D 7-2 E > D 1-0 therfore B > E That reminds me of how David Taylor was always better than Dake on paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Bastida might have the best chance of beating Kerk, but still unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yes, yes. He’s quicker and meaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 20 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: I think Bastida will likely land 5-6. He doesn’t look like he has the weight or horsepower to go that entire tournament without getting surprised by an unobtrusive big guy who knows how to hold position. I think something like a doucet quarterfinal could be a problem for him, even though he handled doucet no problem earlier in the year. That sounds reasonable. I think it's possible he'll run into somebody like Schultz, just a huge guy with too much power for Bastida to handle. But, I remember how Cassar made it look easy against the big boys too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassling Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) Looks like the forum has new contributors with fresh new ideas of their own which is GREAT! Edited February 23 by Rassling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, NM1965 said: That sounds reasonable. I think it's possible he'll run into somebody like Schultz, just a huge guy with too much power for Bastida to handle. But, I remember how Cassar made it look easy against the big boys too. B > D 7-2 E > D 1-0 S > D sv1 . . . B > E B > S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, NM1965 said: That sounds reasonable. I think it's possible he'll run into somebody like Schultz, just a huge guy with too much power for Bastida to handle. But, I remember how Cassar made it look easy against the big boys too. Definitely. One thing I can’t help noticing is that Bastida is a bit “fluffier” than Cassar was. Some guys can wear that well, but for guys making the transition up a weight, that (usually, not always) can lead to guys being outmatched either in strength or in their lungs deeper in the tournament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 21 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: Definitely. One thing I can’t help noticing is that Bastida is a bit “fluffier” than Cassar was. Some guys can wear that well, but for guys making the transition up a weight, that (usually, not always) can lead to guys being outmatched either in strength or in their lungs deeper in the tournament. Bastida doesn't look fluffy when throwing other HWTs over his head ... just say'n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 This was a big discussion prior to the season about Younger Dave Batista. There were a couple of us on the side that he would do great moving up to HWT... there were many who said he wouldn't be in the top 16. He's had a great season so far. I can see him anywhere from 3-8. I see him beating Elam but not WH.... or whatever symbols you want to use <> .. .. #$*&$ 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 49 minutes ago, Idaho said: This was a big discussion prior to the season about Younger Dave Batista. There were a couple of us on the side that he would do great moving up to HWT... there were many who said he wouldn't be in the top 16. He's had a great season so far. I can see him anywhere from 3-8. I see him beating Elam but not WH.... or whatever symbols you want to use <> .. .. #$*&$ Who said he wouldn’t be in top 16? He is just another in a long line of wrestlers to move up from 197 to HWT and do just as good or better, proving that there is no need for a weight between 197 & heavyweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Who said he wouldn’t be in top 16? He is just another in a long line of wrestlers to move up from 197 to HWT and do just as good or better, proving that there is no need for a weight between 197 & heavyweight Agree.... In a thread earlier this year prior to the season, which I will eventually dig up, there was a conversation about him going from 5th to R16 at 197 and declining... not showing that he would handle the weight jump if he can't handle 197... etc. I was on the other end, as there were a few who believed he would be tough at HWT. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 197s always do better going up to heavyweight because heavies are great big fat guys who eat too much and don’t shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 52 minutes ago, JuanMogen said: 197s always do better going up to heavyweight because heavies are great big fat guys who eat too much and don’t shoot. Exactly! Fat bums like Kerkvliet and Hendrickson and Davison and Elam and Feldman and Pitzer and Keuter and Catka that never shoot! foh i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 52 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Exactly! Fat bums like Kerkvliet and Hendrickson and Davison and Elam and Feldman and Pitzer and Keuter and Catka that never shoot! foh He's got a point about 197s doing well at HWT though. Good 197s seem to always thrive at HWT. Even in HS in my day a good 190 would usually spank a HWT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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