Wrestleknownothing Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Wasn't Lugo the #1 seed in 2020? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 yes. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: i didn't ignore anything. he split with Sasso. he beat AOC. those two, at that point in time, were no better than the Brandon Sorenson he beat as a true SOPH at Edinboro. true or false: Lugo beat as good an opponent while at Edinboro than he ever did at Iowa? He also only had 1 loss against a B1G schedule and was the rightful #1 ranked wrestler. You're picking and choosing which data points best serve you and dismissing without any real reason. Your basic argument is if you ignore all the evidence that shows how clearly Lugo improves, there is no evidence he improved, which....cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 ok i'm done arguing. if you think 1) Lugo was light years ahead of where he was at while at Edinboro or 2) Lugo was taking top 4 at ncaa's that year be my guest. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, VakAttack said: He also only had 1 loss against a B1G schedule and was the rightful #1 ranked wrestler. You're picking and choosing which data points best serve you and dismissing without any real reason. Your basic argument is if you ignore all the evidence that shows how clearly Lugo improves, there is no evidence he improved, which....cool? you continually saying i'm ignoring evidence does not make it accurate. i've acknowledge all the/your data points. i didn't consider him much better, elite, or a lock to do anything. and i don't consider his progress to be out of line from the natural expectations of maturity and experience. again, he beat NCAA finalist Sorenson years prior. if anything, he became more consistent, so i'll give you that. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 23 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: color me shocked that a as a TR FR at Edinboro he was 1 match away. literally lost in blood round. so, yes. And the year after his TF year he went backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 the year after is the year he beat Sorenson. but yes, worse NCAA tournament. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: ok i'm done arguing. if you think 1) Lugo was light years ahead of where he was at while at Edinboro or 2) Lugo was taking top 4 at ncaa's that year be my guest. I’m saying he was an AA at Iowa and wasn’t at Edinboro. Which is a fact while the rest is pure speculation from all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 yes, he won one more match at ncaa's in an iowa singlet then he did three years prior when he was at Edinboro TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 18 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: ok i'm done arguing. if you think 1) Lugo was light years ahead of where he was at while at Edinboro or 2) Lugo was taking top 4 at ncaa's that year be my guest. 9 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: you continually saying i'm ignoring evidence does not make it accurate. i've acknowledge all the/your data points. i didn't consider him much better, elite, or a lock to do anything. and i don't consider his progress to be out of line from the natural expectations of maturity and experience. again, he beat NCAA finalist Sorenson years prior. if anything, he became more consistent, so i'll give you that. 6 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: the year after is the year he beat Sorenson. but yes, worse NCAA tournament. 4 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: yes, he won one more match at ncaa's in an iowa singlet then he did three years prior when he was at Edinboro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 An important one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Vak, we need to settle this in Fortnite. don't give me no 'i'm an adult' bs 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) If the unfinished senior season of Seth Lugo is the best example of “Iowa trained,” these days, that is a problem. At one point this same coach turned a couple under the radar transfers from Blacksburg Virginia into NCAA champions. Now he’s plugging in blood round/low AA transfers to replace other bloodhound level guys who also happened to have a gambling problem. Edited February 10 by billyhoyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGTENFANBOY Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Lugo is the exception not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de4856 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 14 hours ago, macwoodfleet said: Ask Thomas Gilman. He will tell you. Is there a video clip of Gilman talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said: Lugo is the exception not the rule. No. Lugo appears to be the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGTENFANBOY Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 hours ago, VakAttack said: Eierman and Woods had their highest placements ever at Iowa, both 1 seeds. Just didn't happen in the last match, and lost close matches to great opponents. Teske was never an AA anywhere else. Woods made the finals.. and lost to a guy he previously had a win over. Eierman made the finals.. and lost to a guy he previously had wins over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Husker_Du said: ok i'm done arguing. if you think 1) Lugo was light years ahead of where he was at while at Edinboro or 2) Lugo was taking top 4 at ncaa's that year be my guest. You don’t think Lugo was taking top 4? Like you said, he had beaten 2 seed O’Connor and split with 3 seed Sasso. He also had beaten 6 seed Lewallen, 7 seed Lee, and 8 seed Degen after having lost to him the previous year. I think he was a safe bet for the top 5. And what do you have against Mitch Finesilver? He was top 4 in 2019… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Woods made the finals.. and lost to a guy he previously had a win over. Eierman made the finals.. and lost to a guy he previously had wins over...That doesn’t preclude the Iowa wrestlers improving. Just means they were out coached and out wrestled by their opponents. Who might have improved more.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I'd rather transfer to Lock Haven than Iowa. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 All the Iowa trolls are out in full force I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGTENFANBOY Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 hours ago, Le duke said: That doesn’t preclude the Iowa wrestlers improving. Just means they were out coached and out wrestled by their opponents. Who might have improved more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for proving the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 10 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Vak, we need to settle this in Fortnite. don't give me no 'i'm an adult' bs It's also a guilty pleasure of mine but I'm not any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGTENFANBOY Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 10 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Vak, we need to settle this in Fortnite. don't give me no 'i'm an adult' bs If he refuses Fornite because it for "kids" Settle it with Street Fighter 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 No mistake in my books. For anyone that had the opportunity. Elite program accepting only elite wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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