VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Any way, as predicted, not a ton of fun in general (for me; I'm sure the PSU fans are loving it). Some tough wrestling from Ayala (btw, WTF did Davis do to his face), Rathjen, Caliendo, Kennedy, Riggins, and Glazier. Horseshoes and hand-grenades, though. Ass whooping. Edited February 10 by VakAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonster Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Time for Anthony Cassar's documentary: how being juiced prevails 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, macwoodfleet said: Did they turn the crowd mic’s off? I couldn’t hear any crowd noise the last hour Everyone gets ice-cream at the break, their tongues are frozen 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Oh good, more Penn State media coverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back?Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, Le duke said: Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Missed mid match adjustment opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopdown Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, Grecojones said: Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back? In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back. There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looked like Davis got plenty of shots at Ayala's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Grecojones said: Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back? Yes, but I thought it was a form of avoiding wrestling, i.e., stalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, swoopdown said: In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back. There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency. Did Ayala not get a TD? How'd he get so many points? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, swoopdown said: In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back. There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency. Hey man. I was calling for the stall as loudly as anyone else. The rematch will be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopdown Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Did Ayala not get a TD? How'd he get so many points? how many from three point stance? Seriously, I listened to this match on the radio and haven't seen it yet. If he got one I'll concede equivalency (this match only) Edited February 10 by swoopdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, swoopdown said: how many from three point stance? I dunno? More than Davis who just kept hitting him in the head and face and didn't particularly try to take a shot. Edited February 10 by VakAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopdown Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Stalling on Vak - we are discussing the equivalency of the three point stance not Davis's lack of shots or clubbing. Deflection is a good tool for a lawyer though. maybe there would have been more shots by Ayala and Davis without the three point? It was a winning strategy. I don't fault Ayala for using it. It was smart. Not a personal preference but smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: I don't know what you can do about it, but that defense where Mesenbrink puts his own knee in danger. I think, judging by how that whole match played out, Caliendo could win a rematch. I think guys are freaked out by the pace, but Caliendo didn't melt and was attacking in the third. Not saying I'd predict it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, swoopdown said: Stalling on Vak - we are discussing the equivalency of the three point stance not Davis's lack of shots or clubbing. Deflection is a good tool for a lawyer though. maybe there would have been more shots by Ayala and Davis without the three point? It was a winning strategy. I don't fault Ayala for using it. It was smart. Not a personal preference but smart. Except RBY wasn't shooting with one arm behind his back. He was keeping his arm away from Desanto until he was ready to shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Pish said: LOL Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, VakAttack said: Good point. My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch?? Are you joking? He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Good point. The gap is only going to grow between those two. 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, PortaJohn said: The gap is only going to grow between those two. Certainly possible. Mesenbrink is great. I think it's more likely to narrow as people feel his pace. Like I said, Caliendo was still attacking late. We'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 After watching this Cassar documentary I’m convinced more than ever that Robert Howard will hang around the program for years then in 3-4 years is going to defeat Bo Bassett for an ncaa title in his only season as a starter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Pish said: My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch?? Are you joking? He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch The Mesenbrink “break my leg defense” on a single leg is akin to the Peyton Hall defense. They put themselves in a danger position to get a restart. Red should just let it play out if they put themselves in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Pish said: My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch?? Are you joking? He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch I literally said in the post you quoted that I was not saying I would predict it. I think guys are freaked out before the match because of the pace. Now that he's felt it and didn't melt, he'll feel more comfortable. Similar thing happened with Desanto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopdown Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I dunno? More than Davis who just kept hitting him in the head and face and didn't particularly try to take a shot. Just now, VakAttack said: Except RBY wasn't shooting with one arm behind his back. He was keeping his arm away from Desanto until he was ready to shoot. RBY was quick enough to shoot a low single from an arm back, no tie position. If he never did it I'd be surprised. Regardless it was within the rules and the smart thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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