PAC 12 rankings from four different wrestling ranking websites

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125 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Kaylor - Oregon St. - 17---------------17--------_____--------11-------------15

Provo - Stanford----21----------------16-------- 18----------19-------------18.5

Figueroa - ASU----- 28---------------18---------17----------31-------------23,5

Mendez - Cal Poly---36--------------30--------____---------____------------33

Reno - Little Rock---35---------------___--------___----------___------------35

Castro-Sandoval CSB - 52-----------___--------____---------____------------52

Renteria - Oregon St.--56-----------___--------____---------____-------------56

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133 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Bailey - Little Rock - 5----------------7---------6------------7-------------6.25

Romney - Cal Poly - 9 ---------------12---------11----------11-------------10.75

Knox - Stanford----26--------------____-------____---------19-------------22.5

Chlebove - ASU----24---------------26---------19----------31------------25

Whisenhunt - OSU - 33--------------___--------___----------30-----------31.5

LaJoie - Stanford -- 45--------------____-------____---------____-----------45

Sanchez - CSB ---- 73--------------____-------____---------____----------73

 

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141 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Belton - Oregon St. - 20-------------18--------14-------------20--------18

Miranda - Stanford - 45-------------30--------___------------29--------34.67

Vasquez - Arizona St. - 40 ---------___---------___----------___----------40

Van Hoecke - L.R.---57-------------___--------___------------___---------57

Ramos - CSB------- 67-------------___---------___-----------___---------67

Hinrichsen - Cal Poly - 68----------___---------___-----------___---------68

Foote - Arizona St. --73------------___---------___-----------___---------73

 

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149 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Parco - Arizona State - 3------------4----------4-----------4------------3.5

C. Lamer - Cal Poly----5-------------5----------5-----------5------------5

Abas - Stanford-------15------------21---------12-----------11-----------14.75

Singleton - Oregon St. - 44----------19--------____----------26----------29.67

Dutton - Little Rock---39------------___--------___-----------___----------39

Rogers - CSB-----------70----------___--------___-----------___----------70

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157 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Teemer - Arizona St - 7---------------3-----------4-------------3---------4.25

Cardenas - Stanford - 8---------------8----------7--------------6---------7.25

M. Bianchi - Little Rock - 34----------31---------___-------------26-------30.33

L. Lamer - Cal Poly ---38-------------32---------___------------31--------33.67

Crosby - Oregon St. - 41--------------___--------___------------___--------41

Flores-Che - CSB --- 70--------------___--------___------------___--------70

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Delayed by a power outage here locally.   Back to it:

165 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

J. Bianchi - Little Rock - 22----------24---------___----------28-----------24.67

Garvin - Stanford-------27----------25---------___-----------24----------25.33

McLane - Arizona St.---36----------___---------___-----------32---------34

Fouret - Oregon St.-----44---------___----------___----------___----------44

Escobedo - CSB -------58----------___----------____---------___----------58

Goldfeder - Cal Poly ---72----------____---------____---------____---------72

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174 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Kemp - Cal Poly-----27 ------------- 9 -----------9---------10-------------13.75

Ruiz - Arizona St. ----18 (@ 165 lbs) ___---------____--------___------------18

Norman - Stanford - 13--------------16---------____---------29------------19.33

Olguin - Oregon St. - 22-------------___---------____--------25-------------23.5

Brennan - Little Rock - 31------------23---------___---------___------------27

Valencia - Arizona St. - 48-----------___---------____--------___------------48

Garcia - CSB ----------57-----------___---------___---------___------------57

 

 

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184 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Munoz - Oregon St. - 4----------------4--------3-------------4-----------3.75

Wills - Little Rock ----22--------------___------___------------___---------- 22

Darrah - Stanford --- 37--------------___------___------------____----------37

Negron - Arizona St. - 41 -------------27------___------------26----------- 31.33

LaRosa - Cal Poly ----52 -------------___------___ -----------___------------52

Smelser - CSB -------75--------------___------___------------___------------75

[Wrestleknownothing]

When I look at all of those I am struck by something. Both Flo and Intermat call them rankings, not ratings. Flo is very vocal about the rankings being achievement based. I think Intermat is the same, though nowhere near as annoying about it.

If they use the same method they should get the same result. Which they do, for the most part, in the top 8 or 10. But anything below that is a total crap shoot. For example, Norman is either #16 or #29 at 174, and Abas is either #21 or #11 at 149, and Brennan is either #23 or unranked at 174.

My conclusion is for all the lip service to rankings, these are only kinda, sorta rankings and kinda, sorta ratings. Really a blend.

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197 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Little - Little Rock -------14-----------9---------9------------10-----------10.5

Stemmet - Stanford-----17 ----------17--------19------------17------------17.5

Rademacher - Oregon St. - 32-------28-------___------------28------------29.33

Priest - Cal Poly ---------53---------___-------___------------___-----------53

Meissner - Arizona St.----72---------___-------___-----------___------------72

Dove - Cal St. Bakersfield - 76--------___-------___-----------___-----------76

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23 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

When I look at all of those I am struck by something. Both Flo and Intermat call them rankings, not ratings. Flo is very vocal about the rankings being achievement based. I think Intermat is the same, though nowhere near as annoying about it.

If they use the same method they should get the same result. Which they do, for the most part, in the top 8 or 10. But anything below that is a total crap shoot. For example, Norman is either #16 or #29 at 174, and Abas is either #21 or #11 at 149, and Brennan is either #23 or unranked at 174.

My conclusion is for all the lip service to rankings, these are only kinda, sorta rankings and kinda, sorta ratings. Really a blend.

Very well said.   I am of the same opinion which is why I took it upon myself to do this as a comparison of whatever one calls them - rankings or ratings or whatever.

Another good example is Kemp of Cal Poly at 174 lbs.  WS has him at # 27 yet the other three have him at either # 9 or # 10.

Edited February 8 by Thumper

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285 lbs ------------ Wrestle Stat - Intermat - Open Mat - Flo Wrestling - Average

Schultz - Arizona St. - 4--------------4----------5------------5----------4.25

Hill - Little Rock ------24-------------22--------17------------22---------21.25

McDermott - Oregon St. - 25---------24--------18-----------24----------22.75

Tinker - Cal Poly -----23-------------23--------___-----------23----------23

Ming - Stanford ------34-------------___--------___----------___----------34

Andrews - CSB-------54-------------____-------____---------___----------54

 

 

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Correction - the Flo Wrestling ranking/rating for Schultz is supposed to have been # 4 (not # 5).   An error on my part.

[Warm Up Champ]

Thanks for putting these together.  Pac-12s will be a small, but tough tourney.  The team race is going to be tight!

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Agreed.  I can see one of three or four teams being the champion this season.