Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Starting in 2021 on TheMat, I started accumulating predictions for the Iowa v PSU dual. While this year looks a bit less interesting than the prior three years given the disparity between the teams and Iowa's latest result, I wanted to see if there is interest in tracking this again this year. If so, post your predictions here and I will assemble them alongside predictions from Go Iowa Awesome and Happy Valley Insider to come up with a wisdom of the crowds consensus pick as I have done in the past. As always there will be valuable prizes after the results are known. @Barracuda141 already got things started with his predictions in another thread on Thursday. Though since we all have more information since then, feel free to update your picks at any time up until mid-afternoon Friday. I will go next: 125: Ayala Dec over Davis 3-0 Iowa 133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3 141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 3-6 PSU 149: Kasak Dec over Rathjen 3-9 PSU 157: Haines Dec over Franek 3-12 PSU 165: Mesenbrink Dec over Caliendo 3-15 PSU 174: Starocci MD over Kennedy 3-19 PSU 184: Truax TF over Riggins 3-24 PSU 197: Brooks MD over Glazier 3-28 PSU 285: Kerkvliet Pinfall over Hill 3-34 PSU I am very uncomfortable with that final score. I just do not see Iowa getting beaten that bad, but here I am. I expect Iowa to go with the 2023 Nelson Brands / any year Will Lewan strategy of committing to center control, hand fighting, blocking, relying on the CHA crowd to call for stalling on PSU before they get off the bus, and hoping to get to ride outs and win 2-1 with +1 second of RT. If they can then a number of matches could go either way. Certainly 133-165 qualify. 4 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 125 - Iowa 3 133 - PSU 3 141 - Iowa 3 149 - Iowa 3 157 - PSU 3 165 - Iowa 3 174 - PSU 4 184 - PSU 4 197 - PSU 3 HWT - PSU 4 PSU 21 Iowa 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 125 Iowa 3-0133 PSU 3-3141 Iowa 6-3149 PSU 6-6157 PSU 6-9165 PSU 6-12174 PSU 6-15184 PSU 6-18197 PSU 6-22285 PSU 6-26Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 125 Davis, PSU over Ayala, Iowa via Decision PSU 3-0 133 Nagao, PSU over Teske, Iowa via Decision PSU 6-0 141 Woods, Iowa over Evans, PSU via Major PSU 6-4 149 Voinovich, Iowa over Kasak, Penn State via Decision Iowa 7-6 157 Franek, Iowa over Haines, Penn State via Decision Iowa 10-6 165 Caliendo, Iowa over Mesenbrink, Penn State via Decision Iowa 13-6 174 Sta(l)rocci, Penn State over Arnold, Iowa via Decision Iowa 13-9 Both teams get a deduction here... IT IS LOOOOUD!! Iowa 12-8 184 Truax, Penn State over Kennedy, Iowa via Decision Iowa 12-11 197 Brooks, Penn State over Glazier, Iowa via Tech Penn State 16-12 285 Kerkvliet, Penn State over Kueter, Iowa via Pinfellery Penn State 22-12 I think there will be a little gamesmanship, some odd coaching decisions, and an all-around badass dual atmosphere... add in that I think Iowa will wrestle with a chip on their shoulders and this is going to be a fun dual. I would actually expect otherwise and that Penn State absolutely blasts them to the tune of what @Wrestleknownothing predicts above... that said, I want to have a little fun inside Carver... I also fully expect Arnold go go, FWIW. That would put Kennedy at 184, unless Arnold goes 184. I think Arnold wants a bite of Sta(l)rocci, though. In the end Brooks destroys Glazier and Kerkvliet destroys Kueter. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Grecojones said: I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. You're actually calling it late. A lot of folks have been calling for it since Friday's beatdown at the hands of Michigan. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 19 minutes ago, Grecojones said: I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. 60-0? 30-0? Weight by weight? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Welp..I'm going to do it.. Davis dec 3-0 Nagao dec 6-0 Bartlett dec 9-0 Kasak dec 12-0 Haines dec 15-0 Messenbrink MD 19-0 Star MD 23-0 Truax dec 26-0 Brooks MD 30-0 Kerk MD 34-0 I'm sure Iowa will get one or two, but I'm not predicting it. IMO there are pickems at 125, 141, 149 and 157..but based on what Ive seen, I give PSU slight edges in each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 38 minutes ago, nhs67 said: You're actually calling it late. A lot of folks have been calling for it since Friday's beatdown at the hands of Michigan. I called it in the Michigan thread aswell. I may actually have been the first to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbone Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 25 Iowa 3-0 33 Tied 3-3 141 Iowa 6-3 149 Tied 6-6 157 PSU 9-6 165 PSU 12-6 174 PSU 16-6 184- PSU 20-6 197 - PSU 24-6 285 PSU 28-6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I think we might see a few backups wrestle, particularly on PSU’s side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 If I were to lobotomize myself and go full homer, I'd pick a 5-5 split with decisions only and with 125, 141, 149, 157, and 165 going Iowa's way. Iowa gets the criteria win. More realistically, I think 3 wins would be good and 4 would be great. Iowa gives up bonus at heavyweight and most likely at 174 but I believe Glazier and Arnold (at 184) keep their losses to decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: 165 Caliendo, Iowa over Mesenbrink, Penn State via Decision Iowa 13-6 You're crazy. Better chance Messenbrink bonuses than losing to Caliendo. He'll break him mid way through the 2nd period 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDFP Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 125: Davis over Ayala 3-0 PSU 133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3 141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 6-3 PSU 149: Kasak MDec over Rathjen 10-3 PSU 157: Haines Dec over Franek 13-3 PSU 165: Mesenbrink MDec over Caliendo 17-3 PSU 174: Starocci TF over Kennedy 22-3 PSU 184: Truax Dec over Riggins 25-3 PSU 197: Brooks FT over Glazier 30-3 PSU 285: Kerkvliet MDec over Hill 34-3 PSU Brands best hope is they start at 125 and they win the first 3 of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 125: Ayala dec Davis 3-0 Iowa 133: Nagao dec Schriever 3-3 141: Woods dec Bartlett 6-3 Iowa 149: Kasak dec Rathjen 6-6 157: Franek dec Haines 9-6 Iowa 165: Mesenbrink major Caliendo 10-9 PSU 174: Starocci dec Kennedy 13-9 PSU 184: Truax major Riggins 17-9 PSU 197: Brooks major Glazier 21-9 PSU 285: Kerkvliet tech Hill 26-9 PSU I gave three to Iowa, but I can see any or all of those results go the other way. Iowa is almost assured to show better than they did against Michigan, but it won't be close to enough. I'll agree with others who suggest that we see back-ups in this dual. I think a lot of us would love to see Arnold out there, but I don't think T&T will put him out against Starocci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Iowa wins 2 or 3 matches by DEC. PSU gets the rest with some bonus mixed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 21 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: If I were to lobotomize myself and go full homer, I'd pick a 5-5 split with decisions only and with 125, 141, 149, 157, and 165 going Iowa's way. Iowa gets the criteria win. More realistically, I think 3 wins would be good and 4 would be great. Iowa gives up bonus at heavyweight and most likely at 174 but I believe Glazier and Arnold (at 184) keep their losses to decisions. I have lobotomized MrPB in, but I do not have enough info from realistic MrPB to enter. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 14 minutes ago, TheDFP said: 125: Davis over Ayala 3-0 PSU 133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3 141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 6-3 PSU 149: Kasak MDec over Rathjen 10-3 PSU 157: Haines Dec over Franek 13-3 PSU 165: Mesenbrink MDec over Caliendo 17-3 PSU 174: Starocci TF over Kennedy 22-3 PSU 184: Truax Dec over Riggins 25-3 PSU 197: Brooks FT over Glazier 30-3 PSU 285: Kerkvliet MDec over Hill 34-3 PSU Brands best hope is they start at 125 and they win the first 3 of 4. Did you mean Schriever over Nagao? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMW Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Franek isn't beating Haines. Woods is going to bounce back and notch a win against whomever it is PSU sends out at 141. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Iowa wins 2 or 3 matches by DEC. PSU gets the rest with some bonus mixed in. If you give me the 2 or 3 and where/what you think the bonus is I will put it in. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, peanut said: I think we might see a few backups wrestle, particularly on PSU’s side. As a single travel date (and assuming PSU does not use their one time exemption) they get to bring 3 extra. Do you think we get all 3 wrestling? If so, who is most likely? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) Quite a few pickem matches 125, 133 (Nagao is the slight favorite), 141 edge Iowa, 149 (Kasak could get Carvered), maybe 157 but I doubt it & 184 (if Arnold goes)...Iowa matches up well against the Nits Edited February 5 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Quite a few pickem matches 125, 133 (Nagao is the slight favorite), 141 edge Iowa, 149 (Kasak could get Carvered), maybe 157 but I doubt it & 184 (if Arnold goes)...Iowa matches up well against the Nits JC has a thread for wafflers. This thread is for the bold. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Realistic prediction: 125 Ayala dec Davis 3-0 133 Nagao dec Schriever 3-3 141 Woods dec Bartlett 6-3 149 Kasak dec Rathjen 6-6 157 Franek dec Haines SV1 9-6 165 Caliendo dec MM 12-6 174 Stallroci dec Kennedy 12-9 184 Truax dec Riggins 12-12 197 Brooks dec Glaizer 15-12 PSU HWT Kerk dec Hill 18-12 PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Grecojones said: I called it in the Michigan thread aswell. I may actually have been the first to call it. I doubt it. I was screaming it at my television after Lemley destroyed Woods. I am a bit slow to the plate, too. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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