JimmyBT Posted February 6, 2024 Author Share Posted February 6, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 10:47 PM, braves121 said: no I am talking about slavery in general does not matter what race. You brought up race, I just stated how slavery is simply still legal. Slavery is slavery no matter what. I can compare them because forced labor is forced labor Expand It’s not the same when a crime is committed and they’re proven guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 6, 2024 Author Share Posted February 6, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 10:49 PM, braves121 said: is it really a good thing for people who are falsely convicted to be forced into slavery? Expand Why don’t you list all of them for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 10:49 PM, braves121 said: is it really a good thing for people who are falsely convicted to be forced into slavery? Expand There is nothing wrong with working when you are getting free room and board and health care benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 9:11 PM, Bigbrog said: People...including me...have told you over and over why stacking the SCOTUS is stupid and un-needed. And don't change what I said or claim I said something I didn't...I never said that the constitution was infallible? It is an amazing document that has been amended for things that were really horrible things and deemed no longer acceptable in our society. Because you don't like the political lean of the current SCOTUS you want to change everything. But if it was leaning the other way I bet you would be arguing why it shouldn't ever change. Expand You’re not even answering the right question! What makes our judicial system better than others? Why should it stay as how it is? And I’m not talking about packing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 12:02 AM, Paul158 said: There is nothing wrong with working when you are getting free room and board and health care benefits. Expand you just described slavery lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 12:50 AM, uncle bernard said: you just described slavery lol Expand Except that they put themselves in that position by their own knowing choices. That is not slavery, that is consequence. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 (edited) On 2/7/2024 at 12:51 AM, mspart said: Except that they put themselves in that position by their own knowing choices. That is not slavery, that is consequence. mspart Expand “african slaves put themselves in that position by becoming prisoners of war to neighboring tribes who then sold them to atlantic slave traders. that’s not slavery, that’s consequence.” Edited February 7, 2024 by uncle bernard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 11:38 PM, mspart said: So braves121, you are for what exactly? You are for no punishment of offenders whatsoever because they might be required to work? And you call that legitimate slavery? It's not like these people were caught and sold into slavery for the rest of their lives. These are people that know the rules, know what is expected, and decided on their own to not live by those rules and subject themselves to possible incarceration and hard labor. So it was a choice on their part. Whereas a slave does not have a choice. You are trying to equalize a square and a circle. That they have area is true, but that is the end of their similarity. Incarceration is a choice. Pure and simple. mspart Expand i would assume he’s for not allowing private prisons to hire out prison labor for well below minimum wages to businesses who then make profit off them (which also undermines American workers btw). their punishment is their incarceration. that’s more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 8:57 PM, uncle bernard said: No, what I want is a drastically different system altogether with term limits and a more rational structure like you see in most other democracies across the world. I don't really care about stacking it with liberals. Most of the liberal justices do things that I think are wrong too. I want a system that is more democratic and less able to institute minority rule on behalf of a political minority that hasn't been able to convince the majority of this country it's right in 20 years. If they reform the court and Conservatives keep winning, more power to them! It's for the people to decide. Expand You’re bouncing all over the place on this. There is no more rational or less political structure, anywhere. The truth is, the court has suffered from activists, no matter which party they were nominated by, than by originalist/textualists. In fact, your complaints and solutions both would pull the court to a more political state to satisfy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 12:50 AM, uncle bernard said: you just described slavery lol Expand Bam!!!!. You sort of lose a few rights when decide to go the criminal route. Maybe this will be a teachable moment for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:00 AM, Offthemat said: You’re bouncing all over the place on this. There is no more rational or less political structure, anywhere. The truth is, the court has suffered from activists, no matter which party they were nominated by, than by originalist/textualists. In fact, your complaints and solutions both would pull the court to a more political state to satisfy. Expand This is just an assertion. Most people in this country have the attitude of “america is the best country - this is our government - therefore it’s the best too” There are plenty of other judicial systems around the world that are less politicized than ours. Ours is one of the most famously political! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:01 AM, Paul158 said: Bam!!!!. You sort of lose a few rights when decide to go the criminal route. Maybe this will be a teachable moment for them. Expand appreciate the honesty! many people believe slavery is okay as long as the slaves are bad people. Most don’t have the courage admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 (edited) On 2/7/2024 at 1:05 AM, uncle bernard said: This is just an assertion. Most people in this country have the attitude of “america is the best country - this is our government - therefore it’s the best too” There are plenty of other judicial systems around the world that are less politicized than ours. Ours is one of the most famously political! Expand Ours may be the most publicized and sensationalized, but not the most politically influenced. Other than from the left. Edited February 7, 2024 by Offthemat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:11 AM, Offthemat said: Ours may be the most publicized and sensationalized, but not the most politically influenced. Other than from the left. Expand the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:10 AM, uncle bernard said: appreciate the honesty! many people believe slavery is okay as long as the slaves are bad people. Most don’t have the courage admit it. Expand You don’t pay attention very well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:26 AM, uncle bernard said: the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. Expand We know all about it. Funny how the most devolved country on the planet is the one you hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 9:21 PM, JimmyBT said: https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-migration-up-at-border-as-us-marks-anniversary-of-repeal-of-exclusion-act/7396937.html#:~:text=According to the U.S. Border,the same period last year. Expand Oh Uncle Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 (edited) On 2/7/2024 at 1:26 AM, uncle bernard said: the party at a 6-3 disadvantage has the larger political influence? lol conservatives have an entire political group funded by billions of dollars primarily devoted towards developing conservative judges and getting court seats. it’s called the federalist society. look it up lol it’s hilarious how little americans know about how other countries work. Expand It’s by design so the country has checks and balances. And it works. Edited February 7, 2024 by JimmyBT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:37 AM, JimmyBT said: We know all about it. Funny how the most devolved country on the planet is the one you hate. Expand nice little freudian slip there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:43 AM, uncle bernard said: nice little freudian slip there lol Expand Slip?? Please explain. Then when you’re done with that you can tell us why China has so many people immigrating here from their great gov run society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 8:15 PM, uncle bernard said: People from developed countries aren't coming here "in masses." lol The US has a lower net migration rate than half of Europe. That must mean all those "communist" countries have a better system than us! Welcome aboard Comrade! Expand https://usafacts.org/articles/where-do-us-immigrants-come-from/#:~:text=Mexico%2C India%2C and China were,was third with 114%2C121 immigrants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:54 AM, JimmyBT said: https://usafacts.org/articles/where-do-us-immigrants-come-from/#:~:text=Mexico%2C India%2C and China were,was third with 114%2C121 immigrants. Expand are india and china in europe buddy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 (edited) On 2/7/2024 at 1:55 AM, uncle bernard said: are india and china in europe buddy? Expand China is one of those communist countries you’re bragging about right ? Comrade? Edited February 7, 2024 by JimmyBT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 7, 2024 Author Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 1:55 AM, uncle bernard said: are india and china in europe buddy? Expand Not many communist countries in a Europe buddy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 2:01 AM, JimmyBT said: Not many communist countries in a Europe buddy Expand you can’t even tell when i’m making fun of you lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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