Pish Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Matthews, Yianni, Lewan, Dean, Schultz. Who’s next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 7:15 PM, Pish said: Matthews, Yianni, Lewan, Dean, Schultz. Who’s next? Expand Well if Lee doesn't wrestle he may temporarily lose his #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 When I read the topic I thought you were exaggerating, but holy crap, its true. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 7:39 PM, ionel said: Well if Lee doesn't wrestle he may temporarily lose his #1. Expand Could be..usually they'll pull people out of rankings if they haven't wrestled come beginning of Jan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 O'Toole also survived a very close match against West Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 10:38 PM, SocraTease said: O'Toole also survived a very close match against West Virginia. Expand But, "survive" he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 10:58 PM, nhs67 said: Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. Expand Tell that to mark hall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 11:37 PM, Antitroll2828 said: Tell that to mark hall Expand not this again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 10:58 PM, nhs67 said: Matthews is still undefeated on the season. Exhibition matches don't count towards his record. Expand Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:36 AM, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 Expand Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 3:19 AM, Antitroll2828 said: Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” Expand Yeah and? Agree with you. They’ll count the losses at the All-star matches for coaches rank Hall/Zahid set the precedence. Edited December 4, 2022 by Pish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:36 AM, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 Expand You are using Flo, which factored in the exhibition matches. Intermat, which did not - and was used for seeding purposes of Cliff Keen - has Matthews at #1 (still): https://intermatwrestle.com/rankings/college/141? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:36 AM, Pish said: Talking about rankings..he’s no longer #1 Expand On 12/4/2022 at 3:19 AM, Antitroll2828 said: Yea but when march rolled around both guys were undefeated and hall was returning national champ and Zahid got the 1 seed bc of that “ exhibition match” Expand seeds are not the same as rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 4:01 AM, nhs67 said: You are using Flo, which factored in the exhibition matches. Intermat, which did not - and was used for seeding purposes of Cliff Keen - has Matthews at #1 (still): https://intermatwrestle.com/rankings/college/141? Expand Sure but if Alairez and Mathews are the two remaining guys undefeated at the weight. Who do you think will be 1 seed at NCAAs? Secondly, what’s your issue? I made a simple post saying half the guys that were pre-season #1 have gone down. What’s your argument? Mathews lost..we all saw it and coaches will take into account when coaches rank comes out. You didn’t get the jist of my post or you just replying to get me to explain a simple post? Edited December 4, 2022 by Pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 4:03 AM, ionel said: seeds are not the same as rankings Expand No shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 5:10 AM, Pish said: No shit Expand Hey ... talk to @PortaJohn about that, not my area of expertise. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBluegill133 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I just commented on this weight on another thread but I think there is going to be a new #1 almost every week at 157 this year. "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 5:09 AM, Pish said: Sure but if Alairez and Mathews are the two remaining guys undefeated at the weight. Who do you think will be 1 seed at NCAAs? Expand It all depends on style points. My opinion doesn't, matter though. This was a matter of factual statement: In NCAA competition this season Matthews is still undefeated. On 12/4/2022 at 5:09 AM, Pish said: Secondly, what’s your issue? I made a simple post saying half the guys that were pre-season #1 have gone down. What’s your argument? Mathews lost..we all saw it and coaches will take into account when coaches rank comes out. You didn’t get the jist of my post or you just replying to get me to explain a simple post? Expand See above. Unless you mean in all of wrestling. If that is the case, then Yianni is on a two match skid and Matthews has lost multiple times since last college season finished. If you want to know my opinion on Matthews and Alirez, I am going Alirez all day. I was high on Alirez before he beat McKenna and am really hoping this is the year he puts it together. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, JBluegill133 said: I just commented on this weight on another thread but I think there is going to be a new #1 almost every week at 157 this year. Expand While I am hoping that Saldate beats Monday today, I won't be picking it. Until Monday loses he should be #1. Who do you think beats him? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I would guess 157 is next and 165 will be volatile in the top 5. Impressive depth in NCAA wrestling makes it fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBluegill133 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:37 PM, nhs67 said: While I am hoping that Saldate beats Monday today, I won't be picking it. Until Monday loses he should be #1. Who do you think beats him?Peyton Robb rolled at CKLV…and I remember an early season Robb giving David Carr everything he could handle last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was at the top of the podium Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I don't think O'Toole loses. He's That Dude at the weight. Mark Hall being the previous years champ is not factored into NCAA seed, I don't believe. He lost the 1 seed probably indirectly from the All Star match, but the match was not counted by the NCAA. The truth is, as I remember it, Zahir had a better season outside of his head to head win in the exhibition anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 If I remember correctly, Brayton Lee was a pre-season #1 on some rankings. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 1:20 PM, Idaho said: If I remember correctly, Brayton Lee was a pre-season #1 on some rankings. Expand You remember correctly. Both WIN and Intermat had him #1 in their pre-season rankings. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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