Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA? For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren. It's slow and awkward. Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive. But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/forum/10-mma/ 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I was expecting to hear that AJ was holding out from Iowa for a larger NIL bag… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA? For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren. It's slow and awkward. Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive. But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater? for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA? For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren. It's slow and awkward. Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive. But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater? I thought this was going to be about how handsome you thought he was. 2 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression It is all a ruse for when he has his first fight. He'll have fists of lightning then. No doubt. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: This is more of a MMA topic and yet related to mma & gambling have you paid your debts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 25 minutes ago, ionel said: and yet related to mma & gambling have you paid your debts? Still no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, mspart said: It is all a ruse for when he has his first fight. He'll have fists of lightning then. No doubt. mspart I thought the saying was, "You're gonna eat lightning and you're gonna crap thunder." 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Ferrari throws worse than a girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Oh god, the head kick that puts him out is going to be replayed over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 hours ago, Truzzcat said: for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 about as impressive as him doing the double birded splits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 hours ago, jmoney said: I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast. not taking anything away from him because hes very strong but he lifts especially when hes dumbbell pressed from what ive seen look like they are loading his joints a lot and are also not controlled and in a short range of motion. So I wonder if doing that over the years has hindered his rom and speed. I know boxers will train explosive reps but thats usually over a full range and with nowhere even remotely close to a max load. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbone Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 16 hours ago, Truzzcat said: for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression 100%. Equally concerning is he keeps posting it like its impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, jmoney said: I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast. Mike Tyson begs to differ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 If the Glazier incident is any indication of Ferrari's striking accuracy, Herb Dean may need to work on his head movement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Mike Tyson begs to differ. Tyson had amazing power. Pacquiao is more known for speed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Tyson had amazing power. Pacquiao is more known for speed: Tyson was one of the quickest heavyweights in modern history. It helped him generate power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Tyson was one of the quickest heavyweights in modern history. It helped him generate power. Yes, but he's a bit of an anomaly in terms of having big pecs and punching fast and hard. Most top boxers don't have big pecs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Tyson had amazing power. Pacquiao is more known for speed: yeah one was a heavyweight dumbass. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Maybe if he fought women it would look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 22 hours ago, PortaJohn said: https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/forum/10-mma/ But if he would have posted there, less eyes would see it. It's all about the clickbait right?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Mike Tyson begs to differ. Touche! I think I moreso wanted to emphasize that physique doesn't create punching power. A guy like string bean Erik El Terrible Morales (my favorite fighter of all time) had decent power for his physique. Barrera looked like he never saw a gym but his punches were devastating. Physiques of devastating fighters vary widely. I've definitely seen my share of jacked arm punchers who can't hurt a fly. I recall reading more than a couple interviews/watching videos of fighters especially at lighter weights emphasizing how size in the chest would be a disadvantage to them in the fight game and they didn't do those types of workouts. I'm sure it varies by weight class, genetics and commitment to good technique. If Ferrari is really struggling to punch he's not Mr Fast Twitch. Someone should do a Mr T spoof of Ferrari (like Rocky 3) and call him The Fabulous Twinkie. Since people mentioned both Tyson and Holifield, did you know Holifield used to spar against tires? He would swing a tire and practice head butting the thing at all angles until he never hurt himself. He's the Master Butter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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