AJ Ferrari's striking

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA?  For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren.  It's slow and awkward.  Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive.  But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater?

[PortaJohn]

https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/forum/10-mma/

[SetonHallPirate]

I was expecting to hear that AJ was holding out from Iowa for a larger NIL bag…

[Truzzcat]

  On 1/31/2024 at 7:41 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA?  For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren.  It's slow and awkward.  Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive.  But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater?

Expand  

for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 1/31/2024 at 7:41 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

This is more of a MMA topic but has anyone seen AJ Ferrari's video of him training MMA?  For such an explosive athlete his striking looks like Ben Askren.  It's slow and awkward.  Askren was never explosive so it was understandable his striking would be similarly unexplosive.  But what gives with AJ's punches looking like he's punching underwater?

Expand  

I thought this was going to be about how handsome you thought he was.

 

[mspart]

  On 1/31/2024 at 9:54 PM, Truzzcat said:

for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression 

Expand  

It is all a ruse for when he has his first fight.   He'll have fists of lightning then.   No doubt.

mspart

[ionel]

  On 1/31/2024 at 7:41 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

This is more of a MMA topic 

Expand  

and yet  related to mma & gambling have you paid your debts?  

[Ohio Elite]

  On 1/31/2024 at 10:10 PM, ionel said:

and yet  related to mma & gambling have you paid your debts?  

Expand  

Still no

[PortaJohn]

  On 1/31/2024 at 10:08 PM, mspart said:

It is all a ruse for when he has his first fight.   He'll have fists of lightning then.   No doubt.

mspart

Expand  

I thought the saying was, "You're gonna eat lightning and you're gonna crap thunder."

[Pinnacle]

Ferrari throws worse than a girl. 

[JuanMogen]

Oh god, the head kick that puts him out is going to be replayed over and over.

[jmoney]

  On 1/31/2024 at 9:54 PM, Truzzcat said:

for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression 

Expand  

I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast.

[Ivan Stankowski]

about as impressive as him doing the double birded splits 

[Truzzcat]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:37 AM, jmoney said:

I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast.

Expand  

not taking anything away from him because hes very strong but he lifts especially when hes dumbbell pressed from what ive seen look like they are loading his joints a lot and are also not controlled and in a short range of motion. So I wonder if doing that over the years has hindered his rom and speed. I know boxers will train explosive reps but thats usually over a full range and with nowhere even remotely close to a max load.

[Dogbone]

  On 1/31/2024 at 9:54 PM, Truzzcat said:

for his mma career its mildly concerning because ive seen him training his striking since he left okie state and there has been seemingly no progression 

Expand  

100%. Equally concerning is he keeps posting it like its impressive. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:37 AM, jmoney said:

I thought I read somewhere that chest mass is no bueno for punch speed. As a decent boxing fan I feel many fighters have alleged similar stuff regarding bulk seemingly harming hand speed. I can only attest to my own hand speed being unimpressive when I benched 275 at a body weight of 140 pounds many years back in a boxing training program. I feel like alot of this is genetics and if he's Mr Fast Twitch he should be capable of being fast.

Expand  

Mike Tyson begs to differ.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

If the Glazier incident is any indication of Ferrari's striking accuracy, Herb Dean may need to work on his head movement.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:08 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Mike Tyson begs to differ.

Expand  

Tyson had amazing power.

Pacquiao is more known for speed:

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:13 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Tyson had amazing power.

Pacquiao is more known for speed:

Expand  

Tyson was one of the quickest heavyweights in modern history.  It helped him generate power.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:29 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Tyson was one of the quickest heavyweights in modern history.  It helped him generate power.

Expand  

Yes, but he's a bit of an anomaly in terms of having big pecs and punching fast and hard.  Most top boxers don't have big pecs.

[jackwebster]

[Hammerlock3]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:13 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Tyson had amazing power.

Pacquiao is more known for speed:

Expand  

yeah one was a heavyweight dumbass. 

[Tripnsweep]

Maybe if he fought women it would look better. 

[Winners Circle]

  On 1/31/2024 at 7:45 PM, PortaJohn said:

https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/forum/10-mma/

Expand  

But if he would have posted there, less eyes would see it. It's all about the clickbait right?!!

[jmoney]

  On 2/1/2024 at 3:08 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Mike Tyson begs to differ.

Expand  

Touche! I think I moreso wanted to emphasize that physique doesn't create punching power. A guy like string bean Erik El Terrible Morales (my favorite fighter of all time) had decent power for his physique. Barrera looked like he never saw a gym but his punches were devastating. Physiques of devastating fighters vary widely. I've definitely seen my share of jacked arm punchers who can't hurt a fly. I recall reading more than a couple interviews/watching videos of fighters especially at lighter weights emphasizing how size in the chest would be a disadvantage to them in the fight game and they didn't do those types of workouts. I'm sure it varies by weight class, genetics and commitment to good technique. If Ferrari is really struggling to punch he's not Mr Fast Twitch. Someone should do a Mr T spoof of Ferrari (like Rocky 3) and call him The Fabulous Twinkie. Since people mentioned both Tyson and Holifield, did you know Holifield used to spar against tires? He would swing a tire and practice head butting the thing at all angles until he never hurt himself. He's the Master Butter.