JimmyBT Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, wrestle87 said: I'd agree, maybe even a bit higher, but considering that a full 50% of their lineup is mercenaries this year, that's a pretty low rate of return considering the goodwill that also burns with your team. Michigan is good and is fun when they are good. Watching them wrestle this year they really have the personality of a frankenstein team, I just don't see the cohesion with them that they've had in years past when all their guys were lifers who grew within the program. I think this is the main that NIL and the transfer portal pose to teams, too many transplants mess up team chemistry, which hinders development in the younger guys. The chemistry at Iowa seems to be fine. 40 - 50% of their starters are transfers and outside of franek it’s for more than one year. Teske, Woods, Franek, Caliendo and Voinovich are all transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 31 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: The chemistry at Iowa seems to be fine. I worry about their forum poster support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ionel said: I worry about their forum poster support. Me too. I wonder what they think of my comments. I’m guessing they’re smart enough to understand. Edited January 30 by JimmyBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disappointed_Badger_Fan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 hours ago, Cowboy08 said: How many guys would Askren steal in the transfer portal if Wisconsin fired Bono and took him? A team full of his AWA guys plus recruiting easily win a trophy. Big mistake by the Wisconsin AD by passing him over IMO I would think a lot of guys would either think about transferring or he might get a lot of young guys to flip their commitments. I think so many guys would want to come home where their parents/families could see them in person, but instead of transfers I'd love to see Millard, and the Mirasolas at UW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disappointed_Badger_Fan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, HungusMungus said: Does anyone actually think Askren would get out of AWA to take over UW? They have a cash cow; I think Bono makes around 250k, I don't know if that would be financially the best move for him. Bono is nothing more than a glorified Hype Man, he has not developed anyone since arriving. I can't pinpoint a single wrestler that he elevated. His biggest accomplishment, mat side seats at home duals I love Reader, but this coaching staff is no better than what they had with Barry Davis. I believe Ben has publicly said that if he was to ever coach it would only be for UW. Things could've changed since his comments, but at this point the Badger AD needs to move on from Bono because he is just a middle aged hype man that can't develop any wrestlers beyond what they were when they arrived on campus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, JimmyBT said: The chemistry at Iowa seems to be fine. 40 - 50% of their starters are transfers and outside of franek it’s for more than one year. Teske, Woods, Franek, Caliendo and Voinovich are all transfers. True, but I don’t think there’s another room in the world that can do what the Iowa room does in terms of turning transfers into Iowa guys. It’s also self-selecting. When guys go to Iowa, the all slowly turn into larger versions of Tom and Terry, you can watch and hear it in the way they talk. When a wrestler chooses Iowa, they also know what they are signing up for. It’s not going to be fun, and that is what those guys want. Everyone is there for the ride and the experience to be able say for the rest of their life “yeah, I did that.” Michigan has a great room and Bormet is a good coach, but he doesn’t have the personality and charisma to wipe the proverbial slate clean for whoever shows up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, wrestle87 said: When a wrestler chooses Iowa, they also know what they are signing up for. It’s not going to be fun, and that is what those guys want. Everyone is there for the ride and the experience to be able say for the rest of their life “yeah, I did that.” I believe that to be, well put... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 12 hours ago, wrestle87 said: True, but I don’t think there’s another room in the world that can do what the Iowa room does in terms of turning transfers into Iowa guys. It’s also self-selecting. When guys go to Iowa, the all slowly turn into larger versions of Tom and Terry, you can watch and hear it in the way they talk. When a wrestler chooses Iowa, they also know what they are signing up for. It’s not going to be fun, and that is what those guys want. Everyone is there for the ride and the experience to be able say for the rest of their life “yeah, I did that.” Michigan has a great room and Bormet is a good coach, but he doesn’t have the personality and charisma to wipe the proverbial slate clean for whoever shows up. I “Think” I’m pretty sure Penn St can (does) do it. And the coach there doesn’t have much of a personality at all. Nagao, Meesnebrink, Truax, Kirk all seem to be doing fine on the best team in college wrestling. You can tell during their interviews that they’re Penn st guys. Edited January 30 by JimmyBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, JimmyBT said: I “Think” I’m pretty sure Penn St can (does) do it. And the coach there doesn’t have much of a personality at all. Nagao, Meesnebrink, Truax, Kirk all seem to be doing fine on the best team in college wrestling. You can tell during their interviews that they’re Penn st guys. All extremely correct. I did not know that Mesenbrink transferred in, and had completely forgotten about Nagao and Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 They are not even in top 25 teams in D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, Mojo44 said: They are not even in top 25 teams in D1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Others Receiving Votes: Wisconsin 25, Indiana, 24, Appalachian State 18, Campbell 9, Penn 5, Navy 4, Northern Illinois 1 Dropped out: No. 21 Wisconsin (6-4), No. 23 Navy (6-5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Wisconsin vs Indiana would be a barn burner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Mojo44 said: Wisconsin vs Indiana would be a barn burner! LOL...ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GopherINOHLand Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, Mojo44 said: Wisconsin vs Indiana would be a barn burner! Yep, with Brayton at IU it makes it closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 ASKREN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungusMungus Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Ivan Stankowski said: ASKREN! WHY ARE WE SHOUTING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, HungusMungus said: WHY ARE WE SHOUTING? GOOD QUESTION!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, ionel said: GOOD QUESTION!! NO ONE WILL LLISTEN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungusMungus Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Ivan Stankowski said: NO ONE WILL LLISTEN!!! WHAT ARE WE LISTENING TO? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, HungusMungus said: WHAT ARE WE LISTENING TO? Nothing thus the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Nothing thus the issue WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, ionel said: WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! askren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Has anyone called Bono a Turdbiscuit in this thread, yet? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Has anyone called Bono a Turdbiscuit in this thread, yet? pretty sure @burwikk did ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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