Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Entries are out per UWW. We could potentially see Lee vs RBY! Speaking of which, I find it curious that Roman is even entered at this event, given the qualifier is just a week later. Suriano is registered at 61kg. I wouldn't hold my breath about seeing him actually compete. Pan am champs entries 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 They're both there to qualify the weight for their country, no? While I'd love to see them wrestle, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both forfeits if they meet in the finals. IIRC, the top 2 qualify for Paris. I don't know if or how it would affect their UWW ranking points or Olympic seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Lee vs RBY would be a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: They're both there to qualify the weight for their country, no? While I'd love to see them wrestle, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both forfeits if they meet in the finals. IIRC, the top 2 qualify for Paris. I don't know if or how it would affect their UWW ranking points or Olympic seeding. Not exactly. The Pan Am Qualifier is a week later. This is the Pan Am Championship. A country can only go to the qualifier if they also send someone to the championship. I am not sure why that is the case given that they are one week apart. 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Awesome for everyone to get reps but there is a -174% chance we see Dake lol i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Entries are out per UWW. We could potentially see Lee vs RBY! Speaking of which, I find it curious that Roman is even entered at this event, given the qualifier is just a week later. Suriano is registered at 61kg. I wouldn't hold my breath about seeing him actually compete. Pan am champs entries Roman needs as many freestyle reps as he can possibly get. He allegedly claims that he never wrestled freestyle until a few weeks ago. I also wouldn't expect to see Suriano, as coach cal put him through a tough med ball workout the other day. Edited January 25 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: as coach cal put him through a tough med ball workout the other day. Allegedly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Suriano when he sees Lee, RBY, and a scale 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not exactly. The Pan Am Qualifier is a week later. This is the Pan Am Championship. A country can only go to the qualifier if they also send someone to the championship. I am not sure why that is the case given that they are one week apart. Ah right, the Pan Am Championships/Games/Qualifier gets me every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfPurdueWrestling Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Wait this isn’t even to qualify the weight? This one is to qualify to send someone to qualify the rate…. So convoluted, I hope Lee and RBY hit in the bracket before the finals bc there will 100% be a forfeit if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, FanOfPurdueWrestling said: Wait this isn’t even to qualify the weight? This one is to qualify to send someone to qualify the rate…. So convoluted, I hope Lee and RBY hit in the bracket before the finals bc there will 100% be a forfeit if not. Now you get it. It makes no sense. I think they have the requirement to send someone to the championship, if you want to wrestle the weight at the qualifier, because they are only a week apart and no one would do both otherwise. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfPurdueWrestling Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Now you get it. It makes no sense. I think they have the requirement to send someone to the championship, if you want to wrestle the weight at the qualifier, because they are only a week apart and no one would do both otherwise. Why not have one Pan Am “championship”/ “games” / “qualifiers” every 12 months. Depending on the year it the name can change. Qualifier for Olympic year, games ever 4 years off cycle, and championships the other 2 year per quad. This year there are 3 official Pan Am wrestling tournaments?? So weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I think y'all are misinterpreting what WKN wrote, or maybe I am. 1. For the 2023 Pan Am Games, there was a qualification process that involved how your country finished in a few Pan Am tournaments that preceded it. Gilman won the 2022 Pan Am Championships, so he qualified the USA for the 2023 Pan Am Games. There, Zane Richards won. 2. For the 2024 Pan Am Championships, there are no qualifiers. 3. For the 2024 Pan Am Olympic qualifier, there are no qualifiers, but if your country already has won a slot allotted at your weight in the 2023 World Championships, your country can't go. I know that #1 above is right because I saw it play out, and I've linked to the Wikipedia entry. As for #'s 2 & 3, I'm pretty sure that's right, but please let me know if I'm wrong. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 21 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Roman needs as many freestyle reps as he can possibly get. He allegedly claims that he never wrestled freestyle until a few weeks ago. I also wouldn't expect to see Suriano, as coach cal put him through a tough med ball workout the other day. he won Fargo. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 21 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Roman needs as many freestyle reps as he can possibly get. He allegedly claims that he never wrestled freestyle until a few weeks ago. I also wouldn't expect to see Suriano, as coach cal put him through a tough med ball workout the other day. The event is Feb 21-24 . Suriano has plenty of time to recover from that workout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Husker_Du said: he won Fargo. Oh, I am quite aware. Another poster claimed that Roman told him that this was his first time wrestling freestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingshoe Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 7:40 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Oh, I am quite aware. Another poster claimed that Roman told him that this was his first time wrestling freestyle. Maybe he said... 1st senior level or first since high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 21 hours ago, wrestlingshoe said: or first since high school. How long ago was that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingshoe Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Don't know. Just saying there's no way he's never wrestled FS before and the person who said he he never had maybe misunderstood what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, wrestlingshoe said: Don't know. Just saying there's no way he's never wrestled FS before and the person who said he he never had maybe misunderstood what he said. I am that person and I agree. But this has taken on a life of its own. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/25/2024 at 12:13 AM, Mr. PeanutButter said: Suriano is registered at 61kg. I wouldn't hold my breath about seeing him actually compete. I can hear Pyles now, "OMG the enigmatic Nick Suriano subverts our expectations again! You see typically, wrestlers wrestle, Suriano is a wrestler, but he doesn't wrestle....see it's ironic." 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingshoe Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 30 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I am that person and I agree. But this has taken on a life of its own. Such is the life of the interweb... Guess we can choose to think for ourselves or have others think for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 10:46 PM, wrestlingshoe said: Maybe he said... 1st senior level or first since high school. Well, I'm pretty sure he lost to Gabe Tagg in FS in college, so definitely not first since high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 roman did not look stellar in france and i believe they were allowed 2kg itll be interesting to see how he does down at scratch weight spencer will also test his par tear defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 20 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: roman did not look stellar in france and i believe they were allowed 2kg itll be interesting to see how he does down at scratch weight spencer will also test his par tear defense I was wondering about the weight allowance. If true, that does not bode well for Roman despite his Treigning Lab pseudo science and/or supplementation program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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