WrestlingRasta Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Wow That is a surprise. But it will be nice to see Haley not splitting votes with DeSantis. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 So now if Trump goes to jail ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 The two immediate take aways I had were: 1) wonder if there’s some under the table plan. 2) game on, MAGA is going to unleash holy hell on Nikki Haley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 47 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: 2) game on, MAGA is going to unleash holy hell on Nikki Haley. Is that a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, ionel said: Is that a good thing? Guess that depends on who you ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 22 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Guess that depends on who you ask I was asking you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Do I think it’s a good thing? Of course not, except that in this case it may help her more than hurt her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Pretty interesting dynamic this brings out. There are some democrats who would prefer someone other than Biden on the ticket. But there aren’t democrats, even among moderates, who would vote for Trump over Biden. Republicans know this. On the other hand, there have already been several prominent republicans come out and said they would not vote for, and even some cases work against Trump. She’s going to be very electable (general election) vs Trump for the mid to center right, moderates on both sides, and independents. Republicans know this as well. MAGA is going to play this game that she’s in liberals pockets. Thats going to play well with democrats who want someone other Biden, and non maga republicans are just going to see the same maga bs they are tired of. Not saying anything other I think it makes the Republican race a lot more dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Pretty interesting dynamic this brings out. There are some democrats who would prefer someone other than Biden on the ticket. But there aren’t democrats, even among moderates, who would vote for Trump over Biden. Republicans know this. On the other hand, there have already been several prominent republicans come out and said they would not vote for, and even some cases work against Trump. She’s going to be very electable (general election) vs Trump for the mid to center right, moderates on both sides, and independents. Republicans know this as well. MAGA is going to play this game that she’s in liberals pockets. Thats going to play well with democrats who want someone other Biden, and non maga republicans are just going to see the same maga bs they are tired of. Not saying anything other I think it makes the Republican race a lot more dynamic. If we could forget the primary and go straight to a 3 way race with Halley picking Manchin as running mate, I think she would win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 40 minutes ago, ionel said: If we could forget the primary and go straight to a 3 way race with Halley picking Manchin as running mate, I think she would win. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said: Pretty interesting dynamic this brings out. There are some democrats who would prefer someone other than Biden on the ticket. But there aren’t democrats, even among moderates, who would vote for Trump over Biden. Republicans know this. On the other hand, there have already been several prominent republicans come out and said they would not vote for, and even some cases work against Trump. She’s going to be very electable (general election) vs Trump for the mid to center right, moderates on both sides, and independents. Republicans know this as well. MAGA is going to play this game that she’s in liberals pockets. Thats going to play well with democrats who want someone other Biden, and non maga republicans are just going to see the same maga bs they are tired of. Not saying anything other I think it makes the Republican race a lot more dynamic. The race that’s over is dynamic???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 What does second place win? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Offthemat said: What does second place win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, ionel said: Maybe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, ionel said: Something they certainly may come in handy in the not so distant future…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2nd place used to win you the vice presidency. John Adams I think was happy with that, knowing that George Washington was going to win. After he got the VP-ship, he thought it was the most useless job in the history of jobs. He was a doer and there was really nothing for him to do. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Seems like lately second place leads to a cabinet position, something of the like. Interesting how not long ago DeSantis gave the speech about kissing the ring and not kissing the ring……only to bend over and kiss the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 alternatively, you could call your opponent a segregationist and then that opponent could win and ask you to be his VP b/c you check all the identity politics boxes. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 42 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: alternatively, you could call your opponent a segregationist and then that opponent could win and ask you to be his VP b/c you check all the identity politics boxes. This is true and fair, many politicians do what DeSantis did, including Kamala Harris. It's just way more embarrassing because Trump hurls personal attacks at all of them and their families and their penis sizes (looking at you, Marco Rubio) and THEN they bow down and kiss the ring. Biden didn't do anything like that to Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Shot: Chaser: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If you can't beat em, join em! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: This is true and fair, many politicians do what DeSantis did, including Kamala Harris. It's just way more embarrassing because Trump hurls personal attacks at all of them and their families and their penis sizes (looking at you, Marco Rubio) and THEN they bow down and kiss the ring. Biden didn't do anything like that to Harris. Nah. Harris did it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Nah. Harris did it to him. 100%. I think it's a fair criticism of most politicians, including Harris. I just think it looks worse when you have Trump out hear hurling extremely personal attacks at you, your family, your height, your name, etc., and then you come groveling back to him. Not that it looks good on the "regular politicians," just that it looks way worse and weaker when it's like this. That part isn't an indictment of Trump, but on his "opponents." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, VakAttack said: 100%. I think it's a fair criticism of most politicians, including Harris. I just think it looks worse when you have Trump out hear hurling extremely personal attacks at you, your family, your height, your name, etc., and then you come groveling back to him. Not that it looks good on the "regular politicians," just that it looks way worse and weaker when it's like this. That part isn't an indictment of Trump, but on his "opponents." I think the way Biden has handled people is far worse than politicians ripping each other. “You’re full of shit” “I don’t work for you jack” and “you ain’t black if you don’t vote for me” are a far worse look than any name calling or crawling back politicians do. Just my opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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