mspart Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 So the laptop was not Russia Disinformation. The peddlers of disinformation disinformed the public on this front. Not only that, but the laptop that everyone knew about is corroborated by the i-cloud data that the DOJ received some time ago. So DOJ has known all along about all this and have slow walked it all. 1. They have Hunter dead to rights on tax evasion and slow walk that one until the statute of limitations happened and they did nothing to keep the case going which they easily could have done. 2. They dropped all of the gun charges on Hunter that are now pending due to the plea deal being blown up. 3. They dropped most of the tax charges except the weak ones that he pled guilty to originally in the plea deal that blew up. Now all of the sudden he is not guilty of those as his new plea. So now that this is out there, what is the DOJ to do? This will determine how corrupt the DOJ is in my mind. They have Hunter dead to rights for a long prison sentence. Will they pull the trigger? We shall see. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Honest question, what’s the long prison sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/hunter-biden-faces-up-to-17-years-in-prison-if-convicted-201777733504 Hunter Biden faces up to 17 years in prison if convicted I would be concerned but I'm not Hunter. He's brave enough to arrive at the Capitol and rail on and on about the deposition he is there not to give on the day he is to give it. That takes some chutzpah. And so far, nothing has happened to him so well played I guess. Except he also crammed it down their throats in the contempt hearing he attended unnanounced. Major chutzpah there I might add. I hope he gets held accountable for these behaviors. His lawyer should but he has otherwise been just defending him telling him these would be good ideas. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Which one of those 87000 irs agents do you think found the tax evasion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, mspart said: https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/hunter-biden-faces-up-to-17-years-in-prison-if-convicted-201777733504 Hunter Biden faces up to 17 years in prison if convicted I would be concerned but I'm not Hunter. He's brave enough to arrive at the Capitol and rail on and on about the deposition he is there not to give on the day he is to give it. That takes some chutzpah. And so far, nothing has happened to him so well played I guess. Except he also crammed it down their throats in the contempt hearing he attended unnanounced. Major chutzpah there I might add. I hope he gets held accountable for these behaviors. His lawyer should but he has otherwise been just defending him telling him these would be good ideas. mspart His lawyer doesn’t seem very bright. Not one lawyer I know or have heard discuss his showing up there says that was a bright move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 51 minutes ago, mspart said: https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/hunter-biden-faces-up- Thank you sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Thank you sir Don't be fooled by the number. Prosecutors often use those numbers to scare defendants and reporters don't really know any better. That's the maximum sentence. In the real world, maximum sentences are extremely rare, especially for a first conviction, especially for "white collar" crimes such as those alleged here. He most likely will be sentenced to probation, possibly with some incarceration on the front end. All of it depends on a lot of things; his sentence may be made worse because of his high profile and the desire to appear non-biased and/or tough on crime, but nothing like 17 years. A lot will also depend on where he scores out under federal sentencing guidelines, although those aren't typically as strictly followed as the ones here in Florida are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Don't be fooled by the number. Prosecutors often use those numbers to scare defendants and reporters don't really know any better. That's the maximum sentence. In the real world, maximum sentences are extremely rare, especially for a first conviction, especially for "white collar" crimes such as those alleged here. He most likely will be sentenced to probation, possibly with some incarceration on the front end. All of it depends on a lot of things; his sentence may be made worse because of his high profile and the desire to appear non-biased and/or tough on crime, but nothing like 17 years. A lot will also depend on where he scores out under federal sentencing guidelines, although those aren't typically as strictly followed as the ones here in Florida are. I’m aware of all that. Just the first time I’ve seen the max facing. I haven’t kept up on Hunter ‘news’ in a minute… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, VakAttack said: Don't be fooled by the number. Prosecutors often use those numbers to scare defendants and reporters don't really know any better. That's the maximum sentence. In the real world, maximum sentences are extremely rare, especially for a first conviction, especially for "white collar" crimes such as those alleged here. He most likely will be sentenced to probation, possibly with some incarceration on the front end. All of it depends on a lot of things; his sentence may be made worse because of his high profile and the desire to appear non-biased and/or tough on crime, but nothing like 17 years. A lot will also depend on where he scores out under federal sentencing guidelines, although those aren't typically as strictly followed as the ones here in Florida are. Thanks partisan lawyer....will you give the same sermon about Trumps cases....didn't think so...could care less what happens to Trump, but pointing out your political biased....as a lawyer...that is what is scary!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Anybody know what the number is for max years Trump is facing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, WrestlingRasta said: Anybody know what the number is for max years Trump is facing? 917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, ionel said: 917 For real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, WrestlingRasta said: For real? nah ... but its not a bad guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 51 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: Thanks partisan lawyer....will you give the same sermon about Trumps cases....didn't think so...could care less what happens to Trump, but pointing out your political biased....as a lawyer...that is what is scary!! You have no idea what you're talking about or what i, a criminal defense lawyer, think about incarceration. I actually do not believe Trump should Trump should be incarcerated if he's convicted in either the documents case or the hush money case. If convicted in either of the election interference cases, I'm more open to the idea because those caused real damage to other people. I think as a country we over-incarcerate people. I would limit lengthy incarceration it primarily to crimes of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 54 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: For real? A little over. The max is 717.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 That a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 THE REID RATIONALE https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/01/the-reid-rationale.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Pretty damning. This should come out in the campaign and let them answer for it. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipdrag Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/17/2024 at 5:38 PM, VakAttack said: In the real world, maximum sentences are extremely rare, especially for a first conviction, . . . , in the Dem world convicting selfie taking, velvet rope abiding, police invited, capitol strollers get more than the maximum sentences. Your assertion is correct; in the real world. Next the Dem world wants to go after people who were standing in the same exact location as where people stand for presidential inaugurations. If you stand there for a non-approved Dem DOJ politician - swat team arrest, criminal prosecution, and maximum sentence. If you stand there for DOJ approved politician or a DOJ approved riot - nothing. Those innocent until proven guilty "criminals" could use some defensing. Your pro bono quota met yet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 hours ago, Lipdrag said: in the Dem world convicting selfie taking, velvet rope abiding, police invited, capitol strollers get more than the maximum sentences. Your assertion is correct; in the real world. Next the Dem world wants to go after people who were standing in the same exact location as where people stand for presidential inaugurations. If you stand there for a non-approved Dem DOJ politician - swat team arrest, criminal prosecution, and maximum sentence. If you stand there for DOJ approved politician or a DOJ approved riot - nothing. Those innocent until proven guilty "criminals" could use some defensing. Your pro bono quota met yet? Don’t forget Catholics and people speaking up for their kids at school board meetings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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