Bardamu911 Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 just a down year/bad luck w injuries or the sign of regression? What's going on in Tempe that the perennial title contender/PAC 12 powerhouse is (maybe actually) mediocre? Not sure what their commitments look like, but is there hope for a return to form in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 ASU is a distraction-rich environment. Maybe having the Oklahoma schools, ISU, Mizzou, Wyo, WVU, SDSU, etc. on their schedule will give the program a needed kick in the ass next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: ASU is a distraction-rich environment. So I've heard... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 BiG 12 should help toughen them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardamu911 Posted January 17, 2024 Author Share Posted January 17, 2024 16 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: ASU is a distraction-rich environment. I myself am an ASU alum and the distractions didn't impact my college wrestling career at all, even a little bit. My career as a D1 wrestler went *exaclty* the same as it would have had there been no distractions at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Were they ever any good? Zeke got a couple stellar recruiting classes years ago but did anything come from it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Didn't Arizona State win a team trophy a few years ago? They're also the only team west of the Rockies to win a national championship, although in fairness, wasn't Zeke a wrestler on that team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 They're chronically out of shape and most guys are just trying to surprise guys from the outside with speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardamu911 Posted January 17, 2024 Author Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Were they ever any good? Zeke got a couple stellar recruiting classes years ago but did anything come from it? National Championship is pretty good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 41 minutes ago, Bardamu911 said: National Championship is pretty good? When was that again? I was referring to the Zeke era. Should have made that clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardamu911 Posted January 17, 2024 Author Share Posted January 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: When was that again? I was referring to the Zeke era. Should have made that clear 4th place finishes in 21 and 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 they also have a pretty specific style, something coaches and athletes from other teams might be getting used to. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheerstress Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 58 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: When was that again? I was referring to the Zeke era. Should have made that clear 1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 3 hours ago, SetonHallPirate said: Didn't Arizona State win a team trophy a few years ago? They're also the only team west of the Rockies to win a national championship, although in fairness, wasn't Zeke a wrestler on that team? To be fair, a lot of people on here weren't born yet. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 1. Lots of injuries this year - Figs and Vaquez being two important ones this year. 2. Team looks very flat - Parco, Teemer and Schultz all have losses they shouldn't have. They look a little disinterested. 3. Have some good kids coming in like #1 Manville - but the classes have been down a little since having a couple great ones. 4. Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley was the #1 song the same weekend that ASU won the title in 1988....35 years ago... which is the same amount of time from 1953 - 1988. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Bardamu911 said: 4th place finishes in 21 and 22 That's pretty good. I should have looked up results. Just from memory, my impression was that ASU often is hyped up but fails to meet expectations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 2 hours ago, Idaho said: 1. Lots of injuries this year - Figs and Vaquez being two important ones this year. 2. Team looks very flat - Parco, Teemer and Schultz all have losses they shouldn't have. They look a little disinterested. 3. Have some good kids coming in like #1 Manville - but the classes have been down a little since having a couple great ones. 4. Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley was the #1 song the same weekend that ASU won the title in 1988....35 years ago... which is the same amount of time from 1953 - 1988. Trophy presentation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 11 hours ago, ionel said: Trophy presentation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0 Well done! Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp91 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 I'm pretty pumped about the future of Big 12 wrestling and Sun Devils wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 Don't we talk about this every season? I feel like we talk about ASU & Illinois coming up short every season. They both have great recruits and it seems like Chlebove is coming on as of late. I am surprised that he didn't transfer and get closer to home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 20 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: they also have a pretty specific style, something coaches and athletes from other teams might be getting used to. Describe it if you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 less handfighty, very low to the mat, they like to try and trick people down to their level with the threat of a double leg or other outside shot, once they are down thereon a knee or something that hit a lot of overtie shucks. In general they are a little too patient but very tactical. 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Jones says that Vasquez is close to returning..... Figueroa and Parco will wrestle the duals this weekend at Little Rock and PItt. Jones also said everyone should be. in the lineup in about 2 weeks. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1fly Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Is Mark Perry still coaching there? I don't see him listed on their page. Anyone know what he's up to now? My wrestling claim is fame is having Mark Perry whoop my butt. We were at a similar weight but thankfully he was wrestling high school when I was in junior high. I like to think I helped him succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 20 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: less handfighty, very low to the mat, they like to try and trick people down to their level with the threat of a double leg or other outside shot, once they are down thereon a knee or something that hit a lot of overtie shucks. In general they are a little too patient but very tactical. Well I appreciate how nicely you described it. I'd be more complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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