Le duke Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 A lot of top 15 matchups in this one. One of the better duals of the weekend. 125: Davis vs #15 Kaylor 133: #4 Nagao vs #26 Whisenhunt 141: # Bartlett vs #25 Belton 149: Kasak or Evans vs #12 Singleton (UPSET ALERT!) 157: #1 Haines vs Crosby 165: #12 Mesenbrink vs. #10 Olguin (UPSET ALERT!) 174: #1 Starocci vs #7 Wittlake 184: #2 Truax vs #6 Munoz 197: #1 Brooks vs #30 Rademacher 285: #1 Kerkvliet vs #12 McDermott I'd like to point out that I don't think Mesenbrink beating Olguin or Kasak beating Singleton would be upsets; I EXPECT them to happen. I think Davis will give Kaylor a good match, too. Might be a bit too early to expect a win but he's susprised me so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 125 Kaylor DEC 0-3 133 Nagao DEC 3-3 141 Bartlett DEC 6-3 149 Singleton DEC 6-6 157 Haines MAJ 10-6 165 Olguin DEC 10-9 174 Starocci DEC 13-9 184 Munoz DEC 13-12 197 Brooks MAJ 17-12 HWT Kerk DEC 20-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 125 Kaylor DEC 0-3 133 Nagao DEC 3-3 141 Bartlett DEC 6-3 149 Singleton DEC 6-6 157 Haines MAJ 10-6 165 Olguin DEC 10-9 174 Starocci DEC 13-9 184 Munoz DEC 13-12 197 Brooks MAJ 17-12 HWT Kerk DEC 20-12 I don't think OSUw scores more than 6 team points. I have Kaylor beating Davis, and then all PSU. Kasak and Mesenbrink pull out a W each. MDs for Haines, Brooks and Kerk. 30-3 final score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 52 minutes ago, Le duke said: A lot of top 15 matchups in this one. One of the better duals of the weekend. Hard to see any of the top 15 matchups going wOSU's way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Le duke said: I don't think OSUw scores more than 6 team points. I have Kaylor beating Davis, and then all PSU. Kasak and Mesenbrink pull out a W each. MDs for Haines, Brooks and Kerk. 30-3 final score. It is going to be a tough night for Oregon State. It Should be a great dual though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Le duke said: I don't think OSUw scores more than 6 team points. I have Kaylor beating Davis, and then all PSU. Kasak and Mesenbrink pull out a W each. MDs for Haines, Brooks and Kerk. 30-3 final score. I'll go 30 to 6, Penn State. Should be some really good matches however, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Truax and Munoz get to revisit their rivalry from 2 years ago. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Why does PSU always seem to wrestle a weak schedule prior to B10 duals? I mean, who have they taken on so far? Hofstra? Lehigh? meanwhile, tOSU, for example, has faced VA tech, NC State, CKLV, Cornell tomorrow , among others. Look at most of the other top teams and you find they’ve all wrestled tougher schedules than the number 1 ranked team. Wth? Edited January 4 by Fred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I would argue that Ohio State has the toughest schedule this season regardless of Hofstra, Columbia and Edinboro. PSU does what PSU does. It works fine for them, no slight there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 34 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I would argue that Ohio State has the toughest schedule this season regardless of Hofstra, Columbia and Edinboro. PSU does what PSU does. It works fine for them, no slight there. Maybe it’s one of the keys to their success. Avoid top competition as much as possible, let the rest of the field beat each other up, then swoop in at the end and clean house 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Maybe it’s one of the keys to their success. Avoid top competition as much as possible, let the rest of the field beat each other up, then swoop in at the end and clean house They avoided top competition so much that they went 4-1 at the All Star classic, with wins at 149, 174, 197 and 285 and a loss at 184.Beau Bartlett avoided it by beating Joey McKenna, Matt Kolodzik and Luke Pletcher, and losing to Andrew Alirez. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Idaho said: Truax and Munoz get to revisit their rivalry from 2 years ago. That should be a really good match. Who won the last time and what was the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 54 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I would argue that Ohio State has the toughest schedule this season regardless of Hofstra, Columbia and Edinboro. PSU does what PSU does. It works fine for them, no slight there. You have a good argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigOR Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Paul158 said: That should be a really good match. Who won the last time and what was the score? PAC-12 final two seasons ago. Munoz by fall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Fred said: Why does PSU always seem to wrestle a weak schedule prior to B10 duals? I mean, who have they taken on so far? Hofstra? Lehigh? meanwhile, tOSU, for example, has faced VA tech, NC State, CKLV, Cornell tomorrow , among others. Look at most of the other top teams and you find they’ve all wrestled tougher schedules than the number 1 ranked team. Wth? Good observation. Two different paths to get to their destination. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, CraigOR said: PAC-12 final two seasons ago. Munoz by fall Wow.What is your prediction this time around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Le duke said: They avoided top competition so much that they went 4-1 at the All Star classic, with wins at 149, 174, 197 and 285 and a loss at 184. Beau Bartlett avoided it by beating Joey McKenna, Matt Kolodzik and Luke Pletcher, and losing to Andrew Alirez. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, I’m aware. The all star classic was hosted by psu, no? Wouldn’t be a good look to dodge obvious matches there. And, I think it was pretty clear that I was questioning why they don’t schedule top competition in *team* events, like dual meets and tournaments such as cklv. Edited January 4 by Fred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 13 minutes ago, Fred said: Yes, I’m aware. The all star classic was hosted by psu, no? Wouldn’t be a good look to dodge obvious matches there. And, I think it was pretty clear that I was questioning why they don’t schedule top competition in *team* events, like dual meets and tournaments such as cklv. I'm assuming Cael & company have found a formula that works best for their wrestlers. Probably why he gets paid the big bucks 1 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 125: Kaylor dec Davis 3-0 133: Nagao major Whisenhunt 3-4 141: Bartlett dec Belton 3-7 149: Kasak dec Singleton 3-10 157: Haines tech fall Crosby 3-15 165: Mesenbrink dec Olguin 3-18 174: Starocci dec Wittlake 3-21 184: Munoz dec Truax 6-21 197: Brooks major Rademacher 6-25 285: Kerkvliet major McDermott 6-29 Nittany Lions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Fred said: Why does PSU always seem to wrestle a weak schedule prior to B10 duals? I mean, who have they taken on so far? Hofstra? Lehigh? meanwhile, tOSU, for example, has faced VA tech, NC State, CKLV, Cornell tomorrow , among others. Look at most of the other top teams and you find they’ve all wrestled tougher schedules than the number 1 ranked team. Wth? Not sure why this may have been in previous seasons, but this year they said they had a light schedule to allow guys to get ready for the US Open and a run at the Olympic Trials. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 28 minutes ago, Fred said: Yes, I’m aware. The all star classic was hosted by psu, no? Wouldn’t be a good look to dodge obvious matches there. And, I think it was pretty clear that I was questioning why they don’t schedule top competition in *team* events, like dual meets and tournaments such as cklv. What are you talking about? There is not record of any such event. Even Wkn knows there is no such thing. You are just making stuff up aren't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingest2010 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 125 is without a doubt the most interesting one. Davis has looked very good for a true freshman, bonusing everyone he has wrestled except the 2 NQ level guys, which is better than I expected especially since he wasn't considering some can't miss prospect coming in (in the 40s on Willie's big board I believe) This will be his first major test. 125 is open and him beating Kaylor would throw him into the conversation to be on the podium as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, wrestlingest2010 said: 125 is without a doubt the most interesting one. Davis has looked very good for a true freshman, bonusing everyone he has wrestled except the 2 NQ level guys, which is better than I expected especially since he wasn't considering some can't miss prospect coming in (in the 40s on Willie's big board I believe) This will be his first major test. 125 is open and him beating Kaylor would throw him into the conversation to be on the podium as well. I favor Kaylor, but not by a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if Davis won and if Oregon State ultimately gets shutout. The underdog supporter in me will be rooting for the Beavers Edited January 4 by flyingcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingest2010 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, flyingcement said: I favor Kaylor, but not by a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if Davis won and if Oregon State ultimately gets shutout. The underdog supporter in me will be rooting for the Beavers I would favor Kaylor as well, 6th year senior and former AA with a W over Ayala this year but similar to you, would not be shocked if Davis won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Le duke said: Beau Bartlett avoided it by beating Joey McKenna, Matt Kolodzik and Luke Pletcher, and losing to Andrew Alirez. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Which of those guys are his competition in college wrestling this year (which I was obviously talking about)?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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