Wrestleknownothing Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Adam Mastroianni makes the case, based on his research, we are living in the illusion of moral decline rather than the reality. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I work with public. I see good, kind, helpful, responsible, law abiding, respectful, etc, etc etc people daily. I just haven't seen their tictocs, instagrams and whatnots... Keep the people afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I work with public. I see good, kind, helpful, responsible, law abiding, respectful, etc, etc etc people daily. I just haven't seen their tictocs, instagrams and whatnots... Keep the people afraid. Welcome to the cesspool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, ionel said: Welcome to the cesspool. I ventured in long before you brother. I'm just better at shutting the f u c k up. Perhaps not... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I ventured in long before you brother. I'm just better at shutting the f u c k up. Perhaps not... Yes I know, you are the one who first told me about this wonderful place. I'd simply been hanging out waiting for the new wrestling season. Plus I've seen the crude still sticking to you when you came back over to the college & international boards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WrestlingRasta Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 No. Just more visible, and ‘bad’ gets more attention. Now, less tolerant….maybe?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 By which morals? Between which time frame? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, jross said: By which morals? Between which time frame? He explains all of that in detail in the podcast. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 5 hours ago, jross said: By which morals? Between which time frame? Jross needs to take detailed notes to send back to HQ... Everybody knows that he is a spy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: He explains all of that in detail in the podcast. I listened to it last night, and it makes great points that I largely agree with. ------ From a contrarian perspective, listening to the OP video, I thought about secular and religious morals. I thought about how moral acceptance changes over time. I wondered how the surveyors considered that the responders answered kindness questions against their at-the-time moral standards. Comparing across history may not be possible when secular moral standards are changing. I remember asking my mother why the people of the Old Testament were evil, and she told me it was the normal way of life then. I wonder how the people of the Old Testament would respond to the survey. Would it also trend similar with the people of today? ------ The selection of morals and time frame enables one to make claims with supporting evidence. To many Abrahamic religious followers, the increasing number of children born out of wedlock is a moral decline. To many, the increasing number of school shootings is a moral decline. Some problems are still worsening, and more work needs to be done. ------ I listened to this Ted Talk that uses data to express progress over time. It is similar to the OP video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Worse no. Brainwashed and stupid compared to the past. Yep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 12 hours ago, JimmyBT said: Worse no. Brainwashed and stupid compared to the past. Yep. You keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means. That you instinctively react by lashing out should give you pause as to who is brainwashed/conditioned. We have more info and better access to it then ever before. Are those that yell the loudest the least qualified to talk about knowledge and science? Often. Does it take an effort to keep up with all that knowledge? Yes. Are we inherently lazy and look for an easier way to get along in life? Also, yes. Do we push back against changing our minds due to how much energy it costs to reevaluate or reconsider our understanding of the world? Heck ya. Does trolling help anyone? Depends on how you define help. Does JBT seem to enjoy getting under the skin of people? Seems so. BAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: You keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means. That you instinctively react by lashing out should give you pause as to who is brainwashed/conditioned. We have more info and better access to it then ever before. Are those that yell the loudest the least qualified to talk about knowledge and science? Often. Does it take an effort to keep up with all that knowledge? Yes. Are we inherently lazy and look for an easier way to get along in life? Also, yes. Do we push back against changing our minds due to how much energy it costs to reevaluate or reconsider our understanding of the world? Heck ya. Does trolling help anyone? Depends on how you define help. Does JBT seem to enjoy getting under the skin of people? Seems so. BAH! Yet we have lower scores and standards just to be fair to those that can’t attain them. Only they can allow me to get under their skin so Edited December 22, 2023 by JimmyBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Maybe I’ll start using conditioned over time just for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: You keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means. That you instinctively react by lashing out should give you pause as to who is brainwashed/conditioned. We have more info and better access to it then ever before. Are those that yell the loudest the least qualified to talk about knowledge and science? Often. Does it take an effort to keep up with all that knowledge? Yes. Are we inherently lazy and look for an easier way to get along in life? Also, yes. Do we push back against changing our minds due to how much energy it costs to reevaluate or reconsider our understanding of the world? Heck ya. Does trolling help anyone? Depends on how you define help. Does JBT seem to enjoy getting under the skin of people? Seems so. BAH! I love when people generalize with words like often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Disgustingly worse at times https://www.knoe.com/2023/12/21/governor-edwards-pardons-57-inmates-october-through-december/ Seems like this has been a problem… so why? https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2002/01/20/murderous-pardons/d15f1391-6cfe-4919-9492-5a5528824608/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutral Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 People were always jerks. Now just more attention is drawn to it via social media. We might have been polite in public but behind closed people still treated each other horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, neutral said: People were always jerks. Now just more attention is drawn to it via social media. We might have been polite in public but behind closed people still treated each other horribly. Prob depends on where you grew up, we won't ask you where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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