Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Currently ranked #14 by Intermat, 9-0. I think he's a bit small for 165, 157 is probably his more natural weight. Is he a true AA contender? A potential finalist? Love the kid's pace...reminds me a bit of a cross between Nolf and Nick Lee. Edited December 12, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: think he's a bit small for 165, 157 is probably his more natural weight. Dumb, he's literally the same size if not bigger than everyone he's wrestled this year. How many dumb threads are you going to finish off the year with? 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Dumb, he's literally the same size if not bigger than everyone he's wrestled this year. How many dumb threads are you going to finish off the year with?Given that he certified below 165lbs, I don’t think this is true.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Currently ranked #14 by Intermat, 9-0. I think he's a bit small for 165, 157 is probably his more natural weight. Is he a true AA contender? A potential finalist? Love the kid's pace...reminds me a bit of a cross between Nolf and Nick Lee. Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Le duke said: Given that he certified below 165lbs, I don’t think this is true. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He wrestled 74kg at U20s. Show me one match this year he's wrestled where he's been undersized. 3 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: He wrestled 74kg at U20s. Show me one match this year he's wrestled where he's been undersized. Show me another top-10 165 that certified below 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: He wrestled 74kg at U20s. Show me one match this year he's wrestled where he's been undersized. My eyes (which never lie) tell me that he is a little on the svelte size for the class but I wouldn't call him truly undersized. I think he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Le duke said: Show me another top-10 165 that certified below 165. It was a decision between Haines or Messenbrink to 165. Messenbrink goes up because he's the bigger wrestler. He's not small for the weight, he won't be small for the weight, and this is just another dumb Cinnabon thread on a Penn State wrestler. 3 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Dumb, he's literally the same size if not bigger than everyone he's wrestled this year. How many dumb threads are you going to finish off the year with? He kinda already started this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 he's almost as good as shapiro 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I wonder if Mesenbrink has ever rolled with O'Toole as they came out of the same High School, and I am guessing the same AWA camp. How did Bono miss out on both of these guys? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: Dumb, he's literally the same size if not bigger than everyone he's wrestled this year. How many dumb threads are you going to finish off the year with? Ridiculous question: all of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: I wonder if Mesenbrink has ever rolled with O'Toole as they came out of the same High School, and I am guessing the same AWA camp. How did Bono miss out on both of these guys? I would be shocked if these guys have not rolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: I wonder if Mesenbrink has ever rolled with O'Toole as they came out of the same High School, and I am guessing the same AWA camp. How did Bono miss out on both of these guys? You think Bono had a shot at either? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gus said: I would be shocked if these guys have not rolled. Allegedly very close friends, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Looks like he’s good enough to be the starter at 165 pounds for the elite program in college wrestling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Remember the good ol days when Messenbrink was picked to beat O'toole this year and win a championship his freshman year. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Allegedly very close friends, correct? Most I know is Mitchell's dad was Keegan's coach at AWA so I'm sure they are very familiar with each other. Coach Messenbrink deserves a lot of credit for developing what is now known as "funk wrestling". One thing I love watching Mitchell do is letting opponents get in on a single leg and then working off his wizard. It's a real work of art. 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Most I know is Mitchell's dad was Keegan's coach at AWA so I'm sure they are very familiar with each other. Coach Messenbrink deserves a lot of credit for developing what is now known as "funk wrestling". One thing I love watching Mitchell do is letting opponents get in on a single leg and then working off his wizard. It's a real work of art. whizzar 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: whizzer I know, I know Edited December 12, 2023 by PortaJohn 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 @Hammerlock3 I feel like I need to explain some of my modified terminology I developed throughout the years whizzer = wizard uchi mata = hoochie mama o-soto-gari = Assault Gary rear naked choke = rear naked clam jam and when done correctly high crotch = the triple decker pecker wrecker 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: @Hammerlock3 I feel like I need to explain some of my modified terminology I developed throughout the years whizzer = wizard uchi mata = hoochie mama o-soto-gari = Assault Gary rear naked choke = rear naked clam jam and when done correctly high crotch = the triple decker pecker wrecker i apreciate the way this list vibes with the stupid practice of arguing what moves are named, as if they didn't occur naturally in different places. I know I just did that, shrug "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: i apreciate the way this list vibes with the stupid practice of arguing what moves are named, as if they didn't occur naturally in different places. I know I just did that, shrug I understand. I come from a region where someone wins State's. The State's is possessive but others win State Edited December 12, 2023 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I understand. I come from a region where someone wins State's. The State's is possessive but others win State here is a funny variation, in wrestling we have "dual meets" which is fine, but we also have "duals" which makes no sense because dual is an adjective. we should have duels which is a noun. 1 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: One thing I love watching Mitchell do is letting opponents get in on a single leg and then working off his wizard. It's a real work of art. 42 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: whizzar witchcraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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