Tigerfan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, wrestle87 said: How deep are we going on this in terms of heel definition? There are a few athletes who fell rather far afoul of what is expected in decent society (even before gambling ), are we taking any of that into account? You sound like you’ve got people in mind. Do share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: downey was the massive miss on my part, put him in at 184. Minnow has got to be the coach. People dislike the brands but no one is saying they aren't tough or are bad people. I’m a Iowa / brands fan too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Tigerfan said: You sound like you’ve got people in mind. Do share. There was a very successful 125-133 lb wrestler for ISU and PSU in the early Cael days who was so uncouth in his unbridled disregard for personal space that he could probably take down both the 125 and 133 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wrestle87 said: How deep are we going on this in terms of heel definition? There are a few athletes who fell rather far afoul of what is expected in decent society (even before gambling ), are we taking any of that into account? thats the fun part of the conversation. Edited December 10, 2023 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 For Heavyweight, gotta be Mocco after he went to Okie State, that makes him double-heel, he was the bad guy at Iowa, but then went to potentially the most heel team to ever win an ncaa championship, even being a heel for the Iowa fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 I guess I’d prefer we stick to sportsmanship surrounding competition than rehash off the mat character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Tigerfan said: I guess I’d prefer we stick to sportsmanship surrounding competition than rehash off the mat character issues. fair considering we definitely know more about that. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker118 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Desanto was a heel at Drexel and at Iowa. Impossible to leave him off this team. In fact he is the MOH of this team. Most outstanding heel! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Quaker118 said: Desanto was a heel at Drexel and at Iowa. Impossible to leave him off this team. In fact he is the MOH of this team. Most outstanding heel! Great call. Anybody around who remembers the 80’s Iowa teams? There have to be some guys from those teams, I just wasn’t around to watch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Baylor Ferndandes of Northern Colorado intentionally tries to hurt people with non-wrestlling moves on a semi-regular basis. He sucks at wrestling also if that helps him qualify 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, flyingcement said: Baylor Ferndandes of Northern Colorado intentionally tries to hurt people with non-wrestlling moves on a semi-regular basis. He sucks at wrestling also if that helps him qualify i think it does, is there an example? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 How has Gilman not been named? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: i think it does, is there an example? Let me fish out a video or two if I can. In the meantime, if you view his wrestlestat profile, you will notice an unusual number of INJ or DEF matches Edited December 10, 2023 by flyingcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) because he's just ramos who shoots, and he's gotten better with time. its no fun to put metcalf ramos and gilman in there for the same reasons. Edited December 10, 2023 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, MPhillips said: How has Gilman not been named? Definitely had him in mind as one of the many Iowa guys contending for lineup spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: its no fun to put metcalf ramos and gilman in there. Agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: because he's just ramos who shoots, and he's gotten better with time. its no fun to put metcalf ramos and gilman in there. Ramos never pulled anything like Gilman engineering the Waters self-slam though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 She makes the list.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Let me fish out a video or two if I can. In the meantime, if you view his wrestlestat profile, you will notice an unusual number of INJ or DEF matches He tried to break Tanner Cooks arm last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, Natty Boh Army said: 125: Matt McDonough, perhaps? Didn't seem like too bad a guy, until his senior year meltdown, highlighted by him throwing his B10 medal in the garbage and refusing to attend the award ceremony. Definitely a heel-type move. Nah man, everyone loved McD. Sucks to see a guy trying to wrestle with one arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Ramos never pulled anything like Gilman engineering the Waters self-slam though. i don't have a great counter argument, i just think ramos was certainly capable of similar behavior, and again having a big mouth and being boring is gross combination, gilman wasnt nearly as boring. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) Edited December 10, 2023 by flyingcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Here's my team. 125: N. Simmons (starter); T. Gilman (backup); C. Fleeger (backup) 133: A. DeSanto (starter); T. Ramos (backup) 141: J. Wilson (starter); T[om]. Brands (backup) 149: B. Metcalf 157: B. Jenkins 165: J. Hendricks (starter); B. Fernandes (backup) 174: B. George (starter); C. Starocci (backup) 184: P. Downey 197: AJ Ferrari (starter); J. Trenge (backup) 285: S. Mocco (starter); J. Henselman (backup) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, flyingcement said: like steve martin, saved by obscurity. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) Doesn't Terry "Cheatin', Lyin', Sons a Bitches" Brands need to be in the corner for this team? Edited December 10, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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