Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Penn State beat Lehigh yesterday but it was not a totally dominant win, even factoring in some guys missing action like SVN and Brooks. 125 - Gary Steen looks largely like the same wrestler from years past. Tries hard, still too small. Not a NCAA qualifier. Their other options in Howard and Davis did not wrestle. I think Davis is probably their best bet since Howard cannot stay healthy. 133 - Nagao lost and it wasn't close. Granted Crookham may be the best 33 pounder in the country but Nagao didn't have much for him. I think Nagao still AAs but I don't think he's a finalist. 149 - SVN did not wrestle for some reason 157 - Haines won but did not dominate. He looks banged up already. 165 and 174 - Mesenbrink and Starocci looked great. Need to see a larger sample size for MM to see if he's big enough for the weight. 184 - Truax looked great, but he's likely not a finalist either and definitely not beating Keicksen. HWT - Kerk looked good but may have gotten injured So I still think PSU wins it all, but we may need to pump the breaks on having 9 AAs, 7 finalists and 5 champs. My prediction as of now is 8 AAs: 133, 141, 149, 157, 174, 184, 197, HWT. 4 finalists at 149, 174, 197 and HWT 3 champs 174, 197 and HWT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 4 finalists at 149, 174, 197 and HWT 3 champs 174, 197 and HWT wanna bet it's more than that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1032004 said: wanna bet it's more than that? How many finalists and champs do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: How many finalists and champs do you have? I’d probably say 5 finalists and 4 champs if I had to put numbers on it. 174/197/285 are basically locks to make the finals and are heavy favorites to win, then would need 2 finalist and 1 champ out of 141, 149, 157, and 184 which I’d put decent odds on happening. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see Brooks or Kerk lose, but also wouldn’t be shocked to see 2 or more of 141/149/157/184 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Poor Jimmy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Steveson might still go which bumps Kerk to the bottom bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 49 minutes ago, headshuck said: Steveson might still go which bumps Kerk to the bottom bracket. If Steveson wrestles then Kerk likely drops to the 2 or 3 seed side which still puts him in the finals. He took his only competition to the woodshed and the coaches poll will not look kindly upon Schultz ducking multiple years. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Penn State beat Lehigh yesterday but it was not a totally dominant win, even factoring in some guys missing action like SVN and Brooks. 125 - Gary Steen looks largely like the same wrestler from years past. Tries hard, still too small. Not a NCAA qualifier. Their other options in Howard and Davis did not wrestle. I think Davis is probably their best bet since Howard cannot stay healthy. 133 - Nagao lost and it wasn't close. Granted Crookham may be the best 33 pounder in the country but Nagao didn't have much for him. I think Nagao still AAs but I don't think he's a finalist. 149 - SVN did not wrestle for some reason 157 - Haines won but did not dominate. He looks banged up already. 165 and 174 - Mesenbrink and Starocci looked great. Need to see a larger sample size for MM to see if he's big enough for the weight. 184 - Truax looked great, but he's likely not a finalist either and definitely not beating Keicksen. HWT - Kerk looked good but may have gotten injured So I still think PSU wins it all, but we may need to pump the breaks on having 9 AAs, 7 finalists and 5 champs. My prediction as of now is 8 AAs: 133, 141, 149, 157, 174, 184, 197, HWT. 4 finalists at 149, 174, 197 and HWT 3 champs 174, 197 and HWT Don't forget that Cael has apparently lost interest in coaching. He just stares at the wrestlers on the mat with disinterest making you think he just wants the get back to the practice room and play dodgeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMW Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I'm with Jimmy on this. The 1st weekend of December is always the best barometer for the season and how mid-March shapes up as a whole. Jimmy needs to see if MM is big enough for 65s, because he's an expert on this (he already pointed out how Brooks was too small for 184, so he's hedging his bet by stating Brooks makes the finals at 197 - this way he can point out how he already posted that he was too small if he doesn't, but here he has him typed into the finals if he does - well played JC; I'm sure you do really well at the blackjack tables). After such a lackluster performance against the Bethlehem builders' school yesterday, it's obvious PSU will not contend for a title and that the Sanderson cabal should all be fired. 7/10 on your troll meter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Every year Jimmy. Every freaking year, you come across as not having learned from recent history. There’s struggle, there’s peaking, there’s regression; Penn State like every other team goes through this and absolutely masters performance in mid-March. I would be concerned if they DON’T look this way at different points through the season, that’s how peaking works! Edited December 4, 2023 by MLB9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Every year Jimmy. Every freaking year, you come across as not having learned from recent history. There’s struggle, there’s peaking, there’s regression; Penn State like every other team goes through this and absolutely masters performance in mid-March. I would be concerned if they DON’T look this way at different points through the season, that’s how peaking works!Opening dual weekend and usually around the first or second weekend of February, they look like crap.Then they come out and pistol whip everyone in January and March. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 hours ago, 1032004 said: wanna bet it's more than that? he doesn't honor his bets "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 6 hours ago, MLB9 said: Every year Jimmy. Every freaking year, you come across as not having learned from recent history. There’s struggle, there’s peaking, there’s regression; Penn State like every other team goes through this and absolutely masters performance in mid-March. I would be concerned if they DON’T look this way at different points through the season, that’s how peaking works! He knows what he’s doing. It’s all part of his game…He doesn’t actually believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_rascal Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Can Bastida challenge Kerk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, mad_rascal said: Can Bastida challenge Kerk? i think so "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_rascal Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: i think so Yeah, same here. Will be a good match, both are great on their feet. Bastida probably will be giving up a few pounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Yeah, same here. Will be a good match, both are great on their feet. Bastida probably will be giving up a few pounds. I think Kerk wins 10-4 or so. Davison isn’t on the level and wrestled a terrible match against Bastida. Not exactly a good measuring stick to compare him to Kerk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 SVN out for the year. This hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 The bit lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: SVN out for the year. This hurts. Cinneboy cursed the lions. Maybe he is really an Iowa sleeper agent? Would explain why he welches on bets and thinks he is right no matter what reality is. Edited December 6, 2023 by AgaveMaria ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said: Cinneboy cursed the lions. Maybe he is really an Iowa sleeper agent? Would explain why he welches on bets and thinks he is right no matter what reality is. he's also mixing in a lot of dumb but straightforward posts, which undermine his troll status. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfPurdueWrestling Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 7:19 PM, mad_rascal said: Can Bastida challenge Kerk? I sure home Bastida can win the weight, but I’m not hopefully given the size and May wrestling discrepancies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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