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AgaveMaria

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Watched a match at Cliff Keen with Teemer of ASU. A lot of backing while setting up his takedowns. As a result was called for stalling a few times. Each time it seemed he shortly used his backing to get a takedown off the opponent initiating a move.

Does this style of wrestling really warrant continued stall calls? He was not backing to get away from an opponents moves but to set up his own which he did well each time.

Any wiggle room for Referees in this type of defensive counter wrestling?

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3 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Watched a match at Cliff Keen with Teemer of ASU. A lot of backing while setting up his takedowns. As a result was called for stalling a few times. Each time it seemed he shortly used his backing to get a takedown off the opponent initiating a move.

Does this style of wrestling really warrant continued stall calls? He was not backing to get away from an opponents moves but to set up his own which he did well each time.

Any wiggle room for Referees in this type of defensive counter wrestling?

I’m not sure how much is at the refs discretion… but yea it’s tough. Too easy to abuse if you don’t call it /shrug.

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21 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Watched a match at Cliff Keen with Teemer of ASU. A lot of backing while setting up his takedowns. As a result was called for stalling a few times. Each time it seemed he shortly used his backing to get a takedown off the opponent initiating a move.

Does this style of wrestling really warrant continued stall calls? He was not backing to get away from an opponents moves but to set up his own which he did well each time.

Any wiggle room for Referees in this type of defensive counter wrestling?

Backing up is stalling.  Waiting for an opponent to shoot so you can counter is stalling.

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You guys are nuts. Using an opponents moves against them takes talent and timing. Just like a counter puncher in boxing. Why penalize a competitor just because they don't do the way you think is right?

Backing and moving to set up an opponent is not running from an opponent. It is not running off the mat.

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3 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

You guys are nuts. Using an opponents moves against them takes talent and timing. Just like a counter puncher in boxing. Why penalize a competitor just because they don't do the way you think is right?

Backing and moving to set up an opponent is not running from an opponent. It is not running off the mat.

Executing a counter takedown is not stalling, but you need to also be working your own, it’s literally under the definition of stalling - “continue wrestling in an attempt to secure a takedown.”   Just waiting for the other guy to do something is not attempting to secure a takedown.

Running off the mat is also stalling (it’d be fleeing the mat in high school), but so is backing up repeatedly.

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12 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

If no one ever shot- no one would ever learn how to counter- so this is a meaningless exercise.

True as well lol. When you get 2 counter wrestlers it usually a boring match. But when those guys pull the trigger though, alot of fireworks can fly.

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34 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

If no one ever shot- no one would ever learn how to counter- so this is a meaningless exercise.

Don't think it's meaningless. Noone wants to watch 2 defensive wrestlers go against each other. If you aren't creating offense you are stalling, which is what this post was about. 

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5 minutes ago, randyfoxwell said:

Don't think it's meaningless. Noone wants to watch 2 defensive wrestlers go against each other. If you aren't creating offense you are stalling, which is what this post was about. 

You missed my point. You clearly said everyone. If neither wrestler in a match- yes. You just went overboard in your statement.

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On 12/3/2023 at 6:58 AM, randyfoxwell said:

Don't think it's meaningless. Noone wants to watch 2 defensive wrestlers go against each other. If you aren't creating offense you are stalling, which is what this post was about. 

related: I love when refs hit both athletes for stalling at the same time!

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