Christian Pyles as Move-by-Move Matside Announcer

[KennyEBHS]

I am listening to Pyles, mat-side at CKLV, and realizing he is better than all of the announcers on BIG!

Edited December 2, 2023 by KennyEBHS

[Hammerlock3]

No everything he says is shockingly superficial.

[Ohio Elite]

He's ok, alot of knowledge about the wrestlers. 

[Hammerlock3]

4 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

He's ok, alot of knowledge about the wrestlers. 

yeah but none about wrestling....its a not a soap opera

[KennyEBHS]

9 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

No everything he says is shockingly superficial.

What exactly does that mean? He calls the matches like a play-by-play announcer

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, KennyEBHS said:

What exactly does that mean? He calls the matches like a play-by-play announcer

it means that he shouldnt be calling it as if it was radio. We can see everything, he should be making tactical insights and sussing out the narratives within the match. 

[KennyEBHS]

10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

it means that he shouldnt be calling it as if it was radio. We can see everything, he should be making tactical insights and sussing out the narratives within the match. 

I disagree. That's for the color guy. Yesterday it was David Taylor. Pyles is the play-by-play!

[ionel]

41 minutes ago, KennyEBHS said:

I am listening to Pyles, mat-side at CKLV, and realizing he is better than all of the announcers on BIG!

not saying much

[MNRodent]

Flo is Monday Night Football compared to ESPN+ at the Cougar Clash today.

[MadMardigain]

20 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

it means that he shouldnt be calling it as if it was radio. We can see everything, he should be making tactical insights and sussing out the narratives within the match. 

Been saying this about many video based wrestling commentary for years.  Those watching know the basics of the sport.  We don’t need the play by play especially when much of it doesn’t even end in a point.  I’d prefer more wrestler background info, keys to the match for each wrestler, and strategy adjustments as the points go up with the occasional move hype when a big point shift occurs. 

Edited December 2, 2023 by MadMardigain

[1032004]

48 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

it means that he shouldnt be calling it as if it was radio. We can see everything, he should be making tactical insights and sussing out the narratives within the match. 

I don’t mind the play by play.  Sometimes I’ll keep some wrestling on in the background while I’m doing something else so appreciate the play by play letting me know it’s time to pay attention

[Hammerlock3]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t mind the play by play.  Sometimes I’ll keep some wrestling on in the background while I’m doing something else so appreciate the play by play letting me know it’s time to pay attention

I should admit that even though I'm right I would not deny that its a cynical position on my part.

[1032004]

11 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I should admit that even though I'm right I would not deny that its a cynical position on my part.

So all sports should get rid of play by play guys on TV broadcasts?

[Hammerlock3]

18 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

So all sports should get rid of play by play guys on TV broadcasts?

well would you accept that as wrestling fans we hardly ever have the luxury of a competent play by play guy next to a competent color guy. We have to accept hybrids, and sense we can generally see whats going on the hybrids should skew towards color, which pyles is horrible at.

I'd also submit that he is bad at play by play. He doesn't have a good command of the language, he spams the word "good" to add the illusion of him evaluating anything as opposed to just saying collar tie when he sees a collar tie.

Again call me cynical if you want but i just don't approve.

[1032004]

17 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

well would you accept that as wrestling fans we hardly ever have the luxury of a competent play by play guy next to a competent color guy. We have to accept hybrids, and sense we can generally see whats going on the hybrids should skew towards color, which pyles is horrible at.

I'd also submit that he is bad at play by play. He doesn't have a good command of the language, he spams the word "good" to add the illusion of him evaluating anything as opposed to just saying collar tie when he sees a collar tie.

Again call me cynical if you want but i just don't approve.

I think he’s OK but I can accept an argument that he’s bad at PBP.

But I disagree that color is more important than PBP

[SocraTease]

I don't get the really strong anti-Pyles sentiment.  He's knowledgable and passionate about the sport, and especially the hundreds of wrestlers who inhabit it, including their past matches, tendencies on the mat, records, and so on.   I suspect some folks don't like his asides, wisecracks, and personal opinions, and maybe some of that comes from his FRL FLO show.  Who knows?  I tend to prefer when he is commenting on a match with someone else as well: Bader, Taylor, Spey, etc. since can balance each other out: PBP vs. color commentary, etc.   

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

I don't get the really strong anti-Pyles sentiment.  He's knowledgable and passionate about the sport, and especially the hundreds of wrestlers who inhabit it, including their past matches, tendencies on the mat, records, and so on.   I suspect some folks don't like his asides, wisecracks, and personal opinions, and maybe some of that comes from his FRL FLO show.  Who knows?  I tend to prefer when he is commenting on a match with someone else as well: Bader, Taylor, Spey, etc. since can balance each other out: PBP vs. color commentary, etc.   

i have to add, his asides, wisecracks and personal opinions are completely lame and predicated on avoiding controversey.

[Gantry]

Pyles is fine in my book as an announcer. 

 

[Hammerlock3]

he just pointed out that ryan jack doesn't give up a bunch of nearfall.....

[Hammerlock3]

he also fanboys the favorite in whatever match he is announcing.

[FanOfPurdueWrestling]

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

he also fanboys the favorite in whatever match he is announcing.

I have noticed that he shows some bias towards who he likes to win the match, but as an announcer he seems fine.

 

wrestling fans (and sports fans in general) seem to just need something to complain about

[Husker_Du]

i think Pyles is one of the best guys to call a match that we have in the sport. 

he really knows tendencies and arsenals - i.e. what to watch for. 

the pool is small, but there's not too many wrestling announcers that are better. 

[Elevator]

He is almost always pretty good and sometimes very good!   Hope they keep him.  

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

I am pro-Pyles, though I love that Sonnen calls him Pyle.

[ionel]

Listen to Mat 7, listen to Pyles, then tell me you don't like Pyles.