Pinnacle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Wrestlestat has PSU shutting the Mountain Hawks out by a score of 36-0. I think both Stanich and Crookham have to be close to a toss up match at 125 and 133. After that it gets rough. With CKLV no one will be watching outside of the die hards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Wrestlestat has PSU shutting the Mountain Hawks out by a score of 36-0. I think both Stanich and Crookham have to be close to a toss up match at 125 and 133. After that it gets rough. With CKLV no one will be watching outside of the die hards. I would think Crookham should be slight favorite even at Rec Hall. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Crookham looks like a dude that is pulling a gigantic amount of weight. If they start at 125, he might be looking a bit rough, that soon off the scale. Hines, unless he can control himself, will put him right in Bartlett's counter-attack wheelhouse. This could be a 4-2 match or another MD for Bartlett. Brooks could MD Beard, too. I expect bonus at 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197 and 285 if everyone goes. I could also see PSU training through this and maybe looking a bit sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, Le duke said: Crookham looks like a dude that is pulling a gigantic amount of weight. If they start at 125, he might be looking a bit rough, that soon off the scale. Hines, unless he can control himself, will put him right in Bartlett's counter-attack wheelhouse. This could be a 4-2 match or another MD for Bartlett. Brooks could MD Beard, too. I expect bonus at 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197 and 285 if everyone goes. I could also see PSU training through this and maybe looking a bit sloppy. Kerk already wrestled the heavy from Lehigh at journeyman and it was a 6-1 match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: With CKLV no one will be watching outside of the die hards. The people that think wrestling was invented in 2010 probably don’t even know CKLV is happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, 1032004 said: The people that think wrestling was invented in 2010 probably don’t even know CKLV is happening If you believe that then see the first topic on their msg board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: If you believe that then see the first topic on their msg board. It was tongue in cheek, but I’d also say that the ones that post on the message board generally aren’t the ones that think wrestling was invented in 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, 1032004 said: It was tongue in cheek, but I’d also say that the ones that post on the message board generally aren’t the ones that think wrestling was invented in 2010 2010? Hmm. I thought it was 2019. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Cael is often magnanimous in who takes the mat and tends to give overmatched opponents a chance to put up a few pts. Could see that here. 133 might be the best match of the night. Have not studied it, but Penn might have more chances to win matches against Iowa that Lehigh does against PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Kerk already wrestled the heavy from Lehigh at journeyman and it was a 6-1 match He also teched him, previously.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Elevator said: Have not studied it, but Penn might have more chances to win matches against Iowa that Lehigh does against PSU. Penn is favored in two matches and there are 3 or 4 other matches some folks would would considee toss-ups. There is one, maybe two toss-ups if Davis doesn't go at 125. Penn State is a heavy favorite at every other weight. Penn has a better chance to win 4 matches against Iowa than Lehigh does to win two against Penn State. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Penn is favored in two matches and there are 3 or 4 other matches some folks would would considee toss-ups. There is one, maybe two toss-ups if Davis doesn't go at 125. Penn State is a heavy favorite at every other weight. Penn has a better chance to win 4 matches against Iowa than Lehigh does to win two against Penn State. Idk if Davis is a favorite over Stanich , that kid is the real deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Penn is favored in two matches and there are 3 or 4 other matches some folks would would considee toss-ups. There is one, maybe two toss-ups if Davis doesn't go at 125. Penn State is a heavy favorite at every other weight. Penn has a better chance to win 4 matches against Iowa than Lehigh does to win two against Penn State. I appreciate the analysis - hoping for some exciting matches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Idk if Davis is a favorite over Stanich , that kid is the real deal I don't think JT Davis can make 125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, gimpeltf said: I don't think JT Davis can make 125 Braeden Davis 1 hour ago, Antitroll2828 said: Idk if Davis is a favorite over Stanich , that kid is the real deal Wrestlestat's ratings favor Davis. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one backup go for Penn State. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like Cael does that a lot in duals that are not close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one backup go for Penn State. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like Cael does that a lot in duals that are not close I could see him sitting a Starocci or Kerk type guy. They’d get in a better day’s work at an NLWC practice with Nolf or Varner, respectively. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Le duke said: I could see him sitting a Starocci or Kerk type guy. They’d get in a better day’s work at an NLWC practice with Nolf or Varner, respectively. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But there is always the possibility that he doesn't want them to get a tougher workout. Taylor talked about how he never had a rest day until he went to PSU. (also, I just realized the fact that Nolf and Starocci probably don't wrestle each other very often these days...) Edited November 30, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Elevator said: Cael is often magnanimous in who takes the mat and tends to give overmatched opponents a chance to put up a few pts. Could see that here. 133 might be the best match of the night. Have not studied it, but Penn might have more chances to win matches against Iowa that Lehigh does against PSU. Maybe, but it wasn't that long ago that they shut Lehigh out and nearly shut them out in individual match points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, flyingcement said: Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one backup go for Penn State. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like Cael does that a lot in duals that are not close Well they won’t have any close duals with their starting lineup, so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Is Lehigh going to try & fit Crookham and McGonagle into the lineup together all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: 2010? Hmm. I thought it was 2019. Everyone knows you were there early setting up data collection methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Does Lehigh do the shuffle-bump? McGonagle to 141 and Hines to 149? Or does McGonagle have to go 149? I don't think it is foregone that McGonagle beats Hines for he spot at 141. Or Crookham for that matter. I think all three are comparable. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMW Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 18 hours ago, 1032004 said: The people that think wrestling was invented in 2010 probably don’t even know CKLV is happening Invented in 2010, but it didn't get good until 2011! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Seymour vs Steen at 125. No Stanich, Davis, McHenry or Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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