Wrestleknownothing Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Is he growing taller? Arnold, Brooks, Pletcher. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Arnold, Brooks, Pletcher. is brooks short? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: For what it is worth, I just read Arnold's father's comment on HR saying he thinks his son should go 184. I think you must be referring to the post in the "Who mans 184" thread by a poster named "blcoach80". That's not Gabe's father. His handle on HR is "ao_coachphil". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 This just in. I read the wrong post on HR (blcoach80 is not his dad ao_coachpil is). His dad thinks he is too small for 184 and gave him a B- for his match yesterday. Changing my username to wrestlehashisheaduphisass 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: I think you must be referring to the post in the "Who mans 184" thread by a poster named "blcoach80". That's not Gabe's father. His handle on HR is "ao_coachphil". Just noticed that too. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: what does this mean Really???? Ok I’ll play. He’s got plenty from the Iowa coffers already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: is brooks short? Shorter than Starocky. (That’s how Arnold pronounced it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Really???? Ok I’ll play. He’s got plenty from the Iowa coffers already. i'm not playing I just don't know what you meant initially "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: i'm not playing I just don't know what you meant initially You’re the one that asked if they were paying him with books. I agreed and then added the library to show he’s already received a big amount of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Gantry said: True about nothing happening in early December, that's a good point. Still, to me it seems weird to go all the way up to 183.9 but it's all speculation at this point. I believe they said 182 on FRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 8:58 PM, VakAttack said: Gabe's success is the primary focus, he should only be wrestling 174. Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Eagle26 said: Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. It is interesting that you say that. I have heard a few PSU wrestlers say the coaching staff there builds around their individual goals. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Eagle26 said: Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. Because wrestling is an individual sport and the most important thing is the individual reaching his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Eagle26 said: Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. Unless we care about duals now, Vak’s statement is true for the team anyway. Arnold probably only scores a few points at 184 this year, and then you lose a year from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Eagle26 said: Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. The name of the game is recruiting and you get better results with champs and high AAs, and you do that by putting the best guys at their optimal weights, and the other guys fill in. I think Gabe Arnold has the potential to be special, whereas the evidence says Kennedy is good but not special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, nhs67 said: There books? What are those? No idea, one of my kids bought a book Fr year, never again, he was frugal found could borrow or check out from library. No books needed. Unless of course you are being the spelling/grammar police hear and if so ewe need too talk two Wkn. Edited November 28, 2023 by ionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, TylerDurden said: Worse. The Arnold I watched last night gets teched by Starocci. How many techs does Starocci have in his career? Are we talking the same Starocci that squeaked by Nelson Brands in a home meet? Edited November 28, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Eagle26 said: Why would Gabe’s success be the primary focus? The team comes before any one individual. 10 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: It is interesting that you say that. I have heard a few PSU wrestlers say the coaching staff there builds around their individual goals. There is nothing about these two statements that is necessarily contradictory. Get guys in the right spots (for the team) and then coach them each to their fullest potential. If everyone reaches their goals, you are going to have a successful team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: How many techs does Starocci have in his career? Are we talking the same Starocci that squeaked by Nelson Brands in a home meet? He’s probably thinking the one that pinned Labs in NCAA finals last year or the one the just took Mekhi to the woodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Pish said: He’s probably thinking the one that pinned Labs in NCAA finals last year or the one the just took Mekhi to the woodshed. Did he pin "Labs", or did "Labs" pin himself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Did he pin "Labs", or did "Labs" pin himself? He pinned Labriola. Come on, now you are doing a Jimmy Cinnabon tribute. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: He pinned Labriola. Come on, now you are doing a Jimmy Cinnabon tribute. I'm no wrestling genius, but someone named Ben Askren (who knows scrambling) indicated that Labriola executed that scramble in an incorrect manner that led to the pinfall. Its not like Starocci cranked him over with a bar or a power half. Anyone who has wrestled has to admit that "Labs" did Starocci a favor. We have all won matches like that, and most of us probably lost some. It is what it is. 3:32 Edited November 28, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I'm no wrestling genius, but someone named Ben Askren (who knows scrambling) indicated that Labriola executed that scramble in an incorrect manner that led to the pinfall. Its not like Starocci cranked him over with a bar or a power half. Anyone who has wrestled has to admit that "Labs" did Starocci a favor. We have all won matches like that, and most of us probably lost some. It is what it is. 3:32 This is not a scramble. Labriola had been ridden for nearly a minute at that point. On the restart, he was trying to do something/anything against a guy who beat him in progressively more dominant fashion in every bout of their college careers, including a demoralizing defeat at the B1G championship less than two weeks before the NCAAs. Let's not frame this as if Labriola and Starocci were on level terms and one guy got caught. Back to the topic: Arnold isn't ready for Starocci, Twitter/X bravado aside. He might be able to keep the score closer than a tech fall by not engaging, holding and blocking - much like he did in the third period and most of the match against Feldkamp, but that doesn't mean the version we saw against Iowa State is in any way ready for Starocci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, TylerDurden said: This is not a scramble. Labriola had been ridden for nearly a minute at that point. On the restart, he was trying to do something/anything against a guy who beat him in progressively more dominant fashion in every bout of their college careers, including a demoralizing defeat at the B1G championship less than two weeks before the NCAAs. Let's not frame this as if Labriola and Starocci were on level terms and one guy got caught. Back to the topic: Arnold isn't ready for Starocci, Twitter/X bravado aside. He might be able to keep the score closer than a tech fall by not engaging, holding and blocking - much like he did in the third period and most of the match against Feldkamp, but that doesn't mean the version we saw against Iowa State is in any way ready for Starocci. . It WAS 100% a scramble. Labriola flopped to his back out of desperation, trying to create a scamble to make something happen. I agree he was frustrated and was trying to make something happen. But it wasn't a turn for Starocci. Just stop pretending it was! On the other hand, I am fully in agreement that Arnold is not nearly ready for Starocci. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: This just in. I read the wrong post on HR (blcoach80 is not his dad ao_coachpil is). His dad thinks he is too small for 184 and gave him a B- for his match yesterday. Changing my username to wrestlehashisheaduphisass Username is already taken. I was going to actually make it and it won't let me because it already exists. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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