Wrestleknownothing Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Yesterday it was all about efficiency. Scoring the minimum while moving on. Today it is about using every part of the wrestler. Exploring the space. Having some fun. As long as we are here we might as well stay...and score some points. Looking at the guys who were basking in the moment and enjoying the spotlight (all matches went the full seven minutes) shows 1994 was the year if you like scoring. Alan Fried scored 80 points (20-9, 19-8, 14-4, 12-4, 15-6) in five matches on his way to the 142 crown, while Lincoln McIlravy put up a not too shabby 78 points (28-16, 19-7, 10-4, 13-2, 8-3) in five victories at 150. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Back in the day when there wasn't any tech falls my older brother wrestling in the sectionals wrestled a guy that may had double jointed shoulders . In a 6-minute match the final score was 38 to 1. He went on to place 5th in the Ohio State Tournament. Unfortunately 2 months later he would pass away in a tragic car accident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Back in the day when there wasn't any tech falls my older brother wrestling in the sectionals wrestled a guy that may had double jointed shoulders . In a 6-minute match the final score was 38 to 1. He went on to place 5th in the Ohio State Tournament. Unfortunately 2 months later he would pass away in a tragic car accident. 38 to 1, that's insane! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Yesterday it was all about efficiency. Scoring the minimum while moving on. Today it is about using every part of the wrestler. Exploring the space. Having some fun. As long as we are here we might as well stay...and score some points. Looking at the guys who were basking in the moment and enjoying the spotlight (all matches went the full seven minutes) shows 1994 was the year if you like scoring. Alan Fried scored 80 points (20-9, 19-8, 14-4, 12-4, 15-6) in five matches on his way to the 142 crown, while Lincoln McIlravy put up a not too shabby 78 points (28-16, 19-7, 10-4, 13-2, 8-3) in five victories at 150. Not sure where you are getting your numbers but pretty sure Sheets scored 68 Jr year. Sr year had a pin so more difficult to total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: 38 to 1, that's insane! Lol I remember coaching one of my wrestlers at a youth tournament. It was the first match of the morning. My wrestler loved to scramble so did his opponent The periods were 1 1/2 minutes. The first period was a blur, at the end of the period it was 14 to 12. The ref and the scoring table took 3 minutes to get it straightened out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Byron Tucker was just an absolute hammer that year, he isn't a name many folks remember but man he was good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, ionel said: Not sure where you are getting your numbers but pretty sure Sheets scored 68 Jr year. Sr year had a pin so more difficult to total. 1988 - 2021 data. I have talked about this. Now if you are looking to extend the data before 1988 or after 2021, I am listening. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I am surprised to see Jordan Oliver on the list. I am equally surprised not to see DT on the list. He must have pinned too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Gus said: I am surprised to see Jordan Oliver on the list. I am equally surprised not to see DT on the list. He must have pinned too often. Yes, Taylor was a pinfalling and TFing machine. Only 6 of his 20 matches ended with a DEC or MD. Edited November 21, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: 1988 - 2021 data. I have talked about this. Now if you are looking to extend the data before 1988 or after 2021, I am listening. You are missing the superior decision era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, ionel said: You are missing the superior decision era. That sounded suspiciously like someone volunteering to add the superior decision era to my data set. 2 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ionel said: You are missing the superior decision era. Maybe give him a break. WKN does a tremendous amount of analytical data work. I for one appreciate that a great deal. Thanks WKN Edited November 21, 2023 by Paul158 missed a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: That sounded suspiciously like someone volunteering to add the superior decision era to my data set. If I knew where to find it. Wrestlingstats.com used to have a search function but it doesn't work anymore and not sure it ever had all the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Maybe give him a break. WKN does a tremendous amount of analytical data work. I for one appreciate that a great deal. Thanks WKN @ionel, and everyone else getting me Weller 12 for Christmas, is good by me. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: @ionel, and everyone else getting me Weller 12 for Christmas, is good by me. I was thinking a fur lined speedo but ... Edited November 21, 2023 by ionel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1980 Joe Gonzales scored 94 in 5 matches after winning by DSQ in pig-tail. 25-11, 20-7, 27-7, 16-7, 6-3. Pre TF days of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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